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NASA Study, Acknowledges Solar Cycle, Not Man, Responsible for past Warming by Bob Ellis

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Denny
Mon Jun 08 2009, 08:16PM
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Solar activity has shown a major spike in the twentieth century, corresponding to global warming. This cyclic variation was acknowledged by a recent NASA study, which reviewed a great deal of past climate data. (Source: Wikimedia Commons)

Report indicates solar cycle has been impacting Earth since the Industrial Revolution

Some researchers believe that the solar cycle influences global climate changes. They attribute recent warming trends to cyclic variation. Skeptics, though, argue that there's little hard evidence of a solar hand in recent climate changes.



Now, a new research report from a surprising source may help to lay this skepticism to rest. A study from NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland looking at climate data over the past century has concluded that solar variation has made a significant impact on the Earth's climate. The report concludes that evidence for climate changes based on solar radiation can be traced back as far as the Industrial Revolution.



Past research has shown that the sun goes through eleven year cycles. At the cycle's peak, solar activity occurring near sunspots is particularly intense, basking the Earth in solar heat. According to Robert Cahalan, a climatologist at the Goddard Space Flight Center, "Right now, we are in between major ice ages, in a period that has been called the Holocene."




Thomas Woods, solar scientist at the University of Colorado in Boulder concludes, "The fluctuations in the solar cycle impacts Earth's global temperature by about 0.1 degree Celsius, slightly hotter during solar maximum and cooler during solar minimum. The sun is currently at its minimum, and the next solar maximum is expected in 2012."

According to the study, during periods of solar quiet, 1,361 watts per square meter of solar energy reaches Earth's outermost atmosphere. Periods of more intense activity brought 1.3 watts per square meter (0.1 percent) more energy.

While the NASA study acknowledged the sun's influence on warming and cooling patterns, it then went badly off the tracks. Ignoring its own evidence, it returned to an argument that man had replaced the sun as the cause current warming patterns. Like many studies, this conclusion was based less on hard data and more on questionable correlations and inaccurate modeling techniques.

The inconvertible fact, here is that even NASA's own study acknowledges that solar variation has caused climate change in the past. And even the study's members, mostly ardent supports of AGW theory, acknowledge that the sun may play a significant role in future climate changes.

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ron
Sun Jun 28 2009, 04:31PM
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Kudos to NASA for seeing some obvious facts. Jeers for failing to have the gonads to stand up to what is clear. It reminds me of story from a cousin-in-law who works for an ice cream company. They quit making "Fruit Special", a popular flavor with a strawberry ice cream base and bits of fruit in it. An old lady always ordered 1 case of it per month. When told that they no longer provided that flavor, she said, "Fine, then I will have a case of Fruit Special." The conversation went on for some time.

Why is it that people are more obstinate when they are wrong than when they are right?
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Ron, I decided to take your advice and I will (albeit slowly) go through some of the links (there are so many, you cannot expect me to go to every one).
The first link does not cover anything in the past 2000 years, so it shows past trends but the factors today are not the same as they were then, so they cannot be applied with the same weight.
The second link says solar irradiance causes a .1 C change, which I do not dispute, I have hear this from other sources as well. But, using the information that you provided, "over the past century, Earth's average temperature has increased by approximately 0.6 degrees Celsius (1.1 degrees Fahrenheit). Solar heating accounts for about 0.15 C, or 25 percent." "Earth's climate depends on the delicate balance between incoming solar radiation, outgoing thermal radiation and the composition of Earth's atmosphere. Even small changes in these parameters can affect climate." So, the article you provided says that the sun is affecting the climate, but is not solely doing so, in fact it is a small part in the equation. "'Greenhouse gases block about 40 percent of outgoing thermal radiation that emanates from Earth,' Woods said. The resulting imbalance between incoming solar radiation and outgoing thermal radiation will likely cause Earth to heat up over the next century."
You cannot pick a little bit of info from an article to prove your point and discount the other info that contradicts your point. You need to account for the whole thing and the overall point that is being made.
I could not find anything the the third article relating to the topic, please point it out to me.
The forth link is to a site that I would consider biased towards one argument, but they link to the second link you provided as their proof. So, see my comments above on that.


This is an image from the Max Planck Institute. It shows that warming have increased while solar irradiance has not had any significant increase since 1940.

This shows different data, going back to the late 70's and also shows no increase in solar irradiance.
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First off, I didn't see this reply until today. I thought you would reply in your own thread. Anyway, I don't see what you're busting my cheeks about. And I would hope you've read the updated threads that Denny has provided. But, as you can see, even with GHGs, there is relatively little difference in temperature retainage (if I may borrow a construction contract term). .3 C? Or even 1 C? .3 C approx equals .5 F. 1 C is, I think, 2.9 F. I double dare you to distinguish a half of a degree of cooling or warming. The point is, we are not losing or gaining any appreciable irradition in response to varying or even increasing levels of CO2. It sounds like you're trying to trip me up in a decimal point, so to speak. But, at least, you have the chops to debate. Normally, we just get people who think repetition equals truth, something that Hitler practiced. "Make the lie big enough, repeat it often, and it becomes truth."

I'm not calling fervent believers of AGW hitlerites. However, their desire for socialism is rooted in the same fascism that brought us Mussolini and Hitler. Fascism is the belief, a religious one from the very beginnings of social engineering, that the govt should and could take care of all. Science be damned. So, even in America, you have movements to make modern science reflect that of Lysenko.
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Now, rather than just assume that man causes everything and gather only data to support that assumption, how about we determine what actually happens and see what matches that? In that case, you find that the Earth's temperature follows fluctuations from the sun. Please see work from Svensmark regarding the fluctuations in magnetic shielding effect from the sunspot cycles and how they alter the amount of cosmic radiation that hits the earth. It is the cosmic radiation that creates aerosols in the atmosphere that help form clouds wihch regulates temperature, as well. I'm also willing to bet that a .3 C warming is not enough to create so much more clouds and even if it did, the negative feedback of clouds cancels any effect that is "projected" from computer games, I mean, models.
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