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»	Democratic Senator Whitehouse apologizes for citing Okla. tornadoes in climate change speech — ‘Regrets the timing of his speech’
»	Dem Sen. Boxer blames tornadoes on global warming — Plugs her carbon tax bill to fix bad weather: ‘This is climate change. We were warned about extreme weather…We need to protect our people’ – ‘Carbon could cost us the planet’ Via POLITICO’s Morning Energy – May 21, 2013: BOXER RINGS THE BELL ON CLIMATE CHANGE: Sen. Bar ...
»	Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Set A New Daily Record on May 20: ‘Breaking the old record set in 2000 by 66,000 sq km. 2013 is now in 6th place for daily records set’
»	Sen Whitehouse enters realm of buffoonery: Analysis: US Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse From Rhode Island Provides Erroneous Information To American Public in Global Warming Rant’
»	1970s Global Cooling Scare: ‘Almost every major climate organization endorsed the 1970s ice age scare, including NCAR, CRU, NAS, NASA – as did the CIA’ — Sound Familiar?!
»	DEATH WISH: Flashback 2009: Nobel-Winning Warmist Economist Thomas Schelling ‘Wished’ for ‘tornadoes’ and ‘a lot of horrid things’ to convince Americans of climate threat!
»	Retraction Watch: Warmist John Cook’s 97% consensus study falsely classifies scientists’ papers according to the scientists that published them
»	Retraction Watch: Warmist John Cook claimed that papers by skeptics Craig D. Idso, Nicola Scafetta, and Nir J. Shaviv endorsed CO2-induced global warming?
»	Deadly Oklahoma Tornadoes – When CO2 Was Below 320 PPM
»	Bill Nye ‘the Science Fool’ on CNN: Claims: Higher average global temperature provides heat for tornadoes
»	NYT’s Andrew Revkin: ‘Any influence of climate change on dangerous tornadoes (so far the data point to a moderating influence) is, at best, marginally relevant and, at worst, a distraction’
»	Warmist John R. Talbott at Huffington Post suggests that the Oklahoma tornado is a wake-up call from God — Declares it a ‘Man-Made Disaster’

»	On the Lighter Side: HAARP Tornado Vortex Clouds Attack! I get scattered e-mails from a lot of people, but I get routine updates from someone named “Ol ...
»	A Simple Experiment to Show How Cool Objects Can Keep Warm Objects Warmer Still The standard explanation of the “greenhouse effect” is that it keeps the surface of the Earth warmer ...
»	Surface Radiation Budget: Where’s the Proof? I’ve had several requests for evidence of the hundreds of watts of downwelling infrared sky ra ...
»	Time for the Slayers to Put Up or Shut Up I have allowed the Sky Dragon Slayers to post hundreds of comments here containing their views of ho ...
»	Global Microwave SST Update for April, 2013: -0.04 deg. C The satellite-based microwave global average sea surface temperature (SST) update for April 2013 is ...
»	Imaging the Greenhouse Effect with a FLIR i7 Thermal Imager What is the atmospheric greenhouse effect? It is the warming of the surface and lower atmosphere cau ...
»	UAH Global Temperature Update for April, 2013: +0.10 deg. C Our Version 5.5 global average lower tropospheric temperature (LT) anomaly for April, 2013 is +0.10 ...
»	A Simple Model of Global Average Surface Temperature And, yes, you can try this at home. I put together a simple surface energy balance model in an Excel ...
»	How Can Home Insulation Keep Your House Warmer, When It Cools Your House?! <sarc> There is an obvious conspiracy from the HVAC and home repair industry, who for years ...
»	Global Warming Slowdown: The View from Space Since the slowdown in surface warming over the last 15 years has been a popular topic recently, I th ...

»	Amherst, MA Presentation, March 7 I will be rolling out version 3.0 of my presentation on climate that has already been around the Int ...
»	Climate De-Bait and Switch Dealing with facile arguments that are supposedly perfect refutations of the climate skeptics ...
»	Lame, Desperate Climate Alarm Logic Via Kevin Drum: Chris Mooney reports today that there’s also a very simple reason: global warm ...
»	Extrapolating From A Single Data Point: Climate and Sandy I have a new article up at Forbes on how crazy it is to extrapolate conclusions about the speed and ...
»	A Great Example of How The Climate Debate is Broken A climate alarmist posts a “Bet” on a site called Truthmarket that she obviously believe ...
»	I Was Right About Monnett When the news first came out that Charles Monnett, observer of the famous drowned polar bear, was un ...
»	Lewandowsky et al. Proves Skeptics are Reasonable and Pro-Science I am not sure it is worth beating this dead horse any further, but I will make one final observation ...
»	Worst Study Ever? I have to agree with JoNova, the Lewandowsky study ostensibly linking climate skeptics to moon-landi ...
»	I Was Reading Matt Ridley’s Lecture at the Royal Society for the Arts…. … and it was fun to see my charts in it!  The lecture is reprinted here (pdf) or here (html) o ...
»	Still Toying With Security If you hit an unexpected error, or worse, seem to have been banned, email me at the link on this pag ...

»	Obama administration gives wind farms a pass on eagle deaths, prosecutes oil companies Published May 14, 2013, Associated Press CONVERSE COUNTY, Wyo. –  The Obama  administration has neve ...
»	In Defense of Carbon Dioxide By Harrison H. Schmitt and William Happer Of all of the world’s chemical compounds, none has a ...
»	Cooling in the Arctic: what to expect? By Oleg Nekhai Global warming which has been the subject of so many discussions in recent years, may ...
»	Dem Resolution Warns Climate Change Could Push Women To ‘Transactional Sex’ By Pete Kasperowicz Several House Democrats are calling on Congress to recognize that climate change ...
»	Second Coldest Spring in US History According to NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), 2013 brought us the second late ...

»	PAGES2K Online “Journal Club” I’m listening to a presentation by PAGES2K authors sponsored by Nature: http://blogs.nature.co ...
»	Cook’s Survey John Cook, whose crush on Lewandowsky continues unabated, asked various blogs, including Climat Audi ...
»	More Kaufman Contamination Kaufman and paleo peer reviewers ought to be aware that the recent portion of varve data can be cont ...
»	Gifford Miller vs Upside-Down Kaufman Darrell Kaufman, lead PAGES2K author, has promoted varvology for Arctic temperature reconstructions. ...

»	Spinning the Climate, The Intergovernmental Pannel on Climate Change (IPCC) The IPCC is claimed by some to have provided evidence that the earth’s climate is harmed by changes ...
»	Interactive Effects of Temperature and Enhanced C02 on Agricultural Crops As the air's CO2 content rises, most plants exhibit increased rates of photosynthesis and biomass pr ...
»	Atmospheric Methane Concentrations Atmospheric methane's contribution to anthropogenic climate forcing is estimated to be about half th ...
»	Solar Influence on Temperatures in Europe We begin this review of the Sun's influence on European temperatures with the study of Holzhauser et ...
»	Solar Influence on Climate: Cosmic Rays The study of extraterrestrial climatic forcing factors is primarily a study of phenomena related to ...
»	Request for Correction of Serious Inaccuracy As an Expert Reviewer for the Fifth Assessment Report, 2013, and in accordance with the IPCC Protoco ...
»	Cook "The Books" is Wrong to Slam Roy Spencer Anyone who has met Roy Spencer knows him to be a careful, thoughtful, unpolemical scientist of formi ...
»	Is C02 Mitigation Cost-Effective? This summary updates Monckton of Brenchley (2013), read at the World Federation of Scientists’ 2012 ...
»	Solar Influence on Global Temperature The claim that anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions have been responsible for the warming detected ...
»	Evidence of a Medieval Warm Period in Antarctica Was there a Medieval Warm Period somewhere in the world in addition to the area surrounding the Nort ...

»	Snow in UK and downunder on 15th of May I am sure this is not rare – the BBC reports – Snow and winds of 65mph hit Devon and Cor ...
»	Vote NO to referendum to amend the Australian Constitution to recognize local councils The Gillard GreenLabor Govt is putting up this referendum question re recognising local councils in ...
»	Ongoing decline in efficiency of Perth Dam catchments – reply from WA Minister The comment by CP on my 2007 article -There never was a rain shortage to justify seawater desalinati ...
»	RI sunspot numbers just out for April – NASA/NOAA SWO number confirms the “rabbit ears” There have been reports on increased sunspot activity in April and the Cycle 24 peak has been widely ...
»	You could assist a DVD being produced to show that trying to ‘stop’ climate change is 50 times more expensive than adapting to it Topher and Lord Christopher Monckton are combining on a project making a DVD. Donations would be ver ...
»	ACORN-SAT – The Australian Bureau of Meteorology temperature database – is not to be trusted Guest article by Ed Thurstan – April 28, 2013 Abstract The second release of ACORN-SAT confirm ...
»	113 years of rainfall at Merredin in the heart of the Western Australian wheat belt My eye was caught by this ABC article – Eyes skyward for farmers waiting on rain – and t ...
»	Update chart monthly irregular boat arrivals – Australian borders still open, come on down Following on from my June 2012 post – Great Australian open borders experiment – come on ...
»	New ice core study from Antarctic Peninsula fails to detect Medieval Warm Period As reported by the ABC – Antarctic melting 10 times faster than 600 years ago - The paper is p ...
»	Proposal that there is a long standing mathematical error in IPCC’s AGW theory Japanese scientist Kyoji Kimoto proposes that there is a long standing error in IPCC AGW theory. Acc ...

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StopSmokingPot    [02/01 09:01] I'm loving this Gore getting bashed by MSM for selling to "big oil", the MSM of course is worried about the CO2, but the real worry should be that the programing will just continue to attack drilling in the U.S. giving the middle east the edge and the profits and the jobs, etc. etc. WCK    [11/25 10:52] Scientists are try to figure out what fossil fuel was used by a 9,000 year old society that caused their city to end up 120 feet below sea level. lol ;-) WCK    [11/25 10:48] Here is the story of the 9,000 year old city found under 120 feet of water. WCK    [11/25 10:46] Scientists are try to figure out what fossil fuel was used by a 9,000 year old society that caused their city to end up 120 feet below sea level. lol ;-) ron    [11/18 05:47] And I am still learning how to edit after recording. I come from the good old days of a 5 inch reel-to-reel. ron    [11/18 05:46] I'm still having problems adapting the mic to record. I sing so loud on the high parts that the mic clips and produces that distortion that you hear. ron    [11/18 05:43] Hey WCK, I am playing a Spectrum acoustic with Ernie Ball Slinkies. The song is the theme song from the tv show "Sons of Anarchy." WCK    [11/17 20:56] Hi Ron you're a blast from the past. I really like the song and am thrilled to see you're pursuing your passion. What guitar are you using in the song and what kind of strings? ron    [11/17 17:17] I haven't checked in for a while. Still cooking on my charcoal grill, driving a gasoline engine. And still singing. WCK    [10/21 11:42] SSP - Here's another group across the pond working on the same process of making fossil fuels green. and others CO2 is a green fuel not just for plants but for humans, who knew? Since current wind and solar require Rare Earth Elements that are as limited of a resource as fossil fuels that have to be mined from the Earth, this new technology of recycling CO2 into gasoline provides an inexhaustible supply of fuel without increasing CO2. See SSP you and I have been supporting green renewable energy all along. StopSmokingPot    [10/16 08:55] WOW Battery maker get 9 million in Taxpayer money and the investment goes bankrupt. Hows that happen? Govt. does not know how to invest in anything. StopSmokingPot    [10/16 08:39] WCK CO2 to gasoline! What's the name of that company? I know the Govt. would rather invest in bankrupt solar/wind. But that typical but I wouldn't mind investing in gasoline anything. WCK    [10/10 16:41] Fossil fuel can be a renewable energy with a net zero CO2 impact and the technology to make it so is being developed. An artificial tree that can absorb 1 ton of CO2/day can then transfer that CO2 to be combined with other chemicals to make gasoline. The cycle can be repeated indefinitely. WCK    [08/11 08:35] The climate disinformation ministry earlier this year tauted forest fires as more evidence of extreme weather caused by warming. As usual the public was lied to as fires this year are well below normal. 2012 (1/1/12 - 8/10/12) Fires: 39,445 Acres: 5,047,443 2011 (1/1/11 - 8/10/11) Fires: 47,187 Acres: 6,320,510 2010 (1/1/10 - 8/10/10) Fires: 41,614 Acres: 2,167,361 2009 (1/1/09 - 8/10/09) Fires: 59,990 Acres: 4,969,641 2008 (1/1/08 - 8/10/08) Fires: 56,778 Acres: 3,991,073 2007 (1/1/07 - 8/10/07) Fires: 59,258 Acres: 5,548,273 2006 (1/1/06 - 8/10/06) Fires: 74,045 Acres: 5,994,790 2005 (1/1/05 - 8/10/05) Fires: 41,003 Acres: 5,285,571 2004 (1/1/03 - 8/10/04) Fires: 50,774 Acres: 5,623,787 2003 (1/1/03 - 8/10/03) Fires: 39,467 Acres: 1,958,238 The latest satellite based global temperature fell in July and didn't even make the top 10 but in the USA we are told to just look out the window for proof of AGW. lol WCK    [08/09 05:46] Here is an article describing a scam in which money from carbon trading is not really reducing GHGs. It exists because the cost of producing the harmful GHG is much less than the profit from destroying the GHG. It allows companies to make 10s of millions in carbon credits by increasing the production of the harmful gas in one factory and then destroying it at their other factory. It's like paying an arsonist to put out fires and having the arsonist going out and starting more fires to put out. This reminds me of the instance where feed-in tarrifs for green energy were so high in Germany that people bought fossil fuel powered generators to run at night to shine light onto their solar panels which netted a handsom profit. Last year 800,000 German families couldn't afford heat last winter as energy costs were unaffordable. StopSmokingPot    [08/08 15:59] I think it's interesting that they are using sat images that are not the actual images of Greenland but use "computer generated images" to show that ice melted countrywide and visually make people think all the ice melted in 48 hours even though the ice is 2 miles thick. The amount of ice that melted nation wide was most likely less than a 16th of an inch melt. Yes they have ramped up the disinformation they sound like the current administration. They just blurt out stuff even though they know our own eyes see different and if we question it they a attacked verbally today... but tomorrow?? It's feeling a bit Soviet. WCK    [08/06 09:56] SSP - The alarmists' have ramped up the disinformation campaign to frighten the ignorant and uninformed. They ignore the scientific fact that paleoclimate researchers have identified periods of past drought that lasted 200+ years in the last 1,000 years when CO2 was below 300PPM and then pretend that a few months of drought today is unprecedented and "proof" that global warming is the culprit for more extreme weather. However the actual scientific evidence that something is wrong with the current CO2 based models/theory continues to grow. Antarctic ice melt models have been found to be wrnong and now the Greenland models are being questioned for accuracy. What a shock! lol StopSmokingPot    [08/02 19:06] Hey guy's you've seen the sat images of Greenland purported to be take on the 8th full of ice then on the 12th with no Ice?? Just to let you know I flew over Greenland on the 14th and it was solid white what is known about this sat. imagery?? WCK    [07/16 21:10] One of the key tenets of global warming is that warming amplification will occur in the form of increased water vapor feedback. Bryan Walsh of Time Magazine claimed that the heavy snow in D.C a few years ago was due to increased water vapor in the atmosphere caused by global warming. Of course Walsh never had data to back up his assumption and now there is 22 years of NASA "special project" data that shows that his assumption was wrong. This is quite inconvenient as climate models base 2/3 of future warming on non-CO2 based feedbacks like water vapor. It also means that the models used by the IPCC are not robust and that it would be illogical to assume that future predictions are accurate when models are unable to replicate what the Earth is actually doing. Other problem areas for these models are aerosols, clouds and Stratospheric water vapor. stopsmokingpot   [07/14 20:26] At one time man new weather was Poetry not to be feared. "Rain falls, clouds rise, rivers dry up, hailstorms sweep down; rays scorch, and impinging from every side on the earth in the middle of the world, they are broken and recoil and carry with them the moisture they have drunk up. Steam falls from on high and again returns on high. Empty winds sweep down, and then go back again with their plunder. So many living creatures draw their breath from the upper air; but the air strives in the opposite direction, and the earth pours back the breath to the sky as if to a vacuum. Thus as nature swings to and fro like a kind of sling, discord is kindled by the velocity of the world's motion."Pliny the Elder, from the Natural History, AD 77 stopsmokingpot   [07/14 20:23] Date Line July 14 2012-Just flew back from London, Greenland pure white from head to toe, Southern Baffin Bay plenty of Ice flows from the spring & summer thaw as always. long way from not having Ice in the Arctic... You Crazy Moonbats. Altitude 37,000 ft over Denver -60 degrees F and that's where all the Heat goes up and cooled and dispersed. HEAT-TRAPPED! No place but between you crazy ears Moonbats. Fires in Denver no, Rain, YES. Thetruth   [07/13 16:02] LINK---> Thetruth   [07/13 16:02] WCK is an Alien! Listen to what he's saying! This guys wicked smart because hes from outterspace and has a spaceship! GO GLOBALWARMING HOAX!!! WCK    [07/13 10:25] New tree ring reconstructions refute the IPCC/Michael Mann hockey stick. Global reconstructions using better proxy methodology than tree rings, also provide growing evidence that the hockey stick is wrong, that there were warm/warmer periods such as the RWP and MWP and that they were global events. The writing is on the wall. The IPCC has lost all a scientific credibility and it is clear that the idea of consensus on global warming is mythology at best. I have provided numerous examples on this site over several years explaining climate model divergence from reality and honest scientists like James Lovelock can mo longer ignore evidence of climate model divergence and are recanting their consensus support. Without a .3 degreeC temperature rise in satellite readings by 2013, the models are falsified. WCK    [07/13 09:49] The Antarctic was covered with vegetation during the Miocene when CO2 levels were 280 PPM. Can any of you that believe in a consensus of unprecedented global warming explain this decoupling between global warming and CO2? Japanese sea level experts find that sea level was 2 meters higher than today just 4,000 years ago when CO2 levels were below 300PPM. This corraborates seperate studies in the Carribean that also provide evidence of sea level being higher by 1 to 2 meters earlier in the Holocene period. Those that believe in a climate consensus are anti-science types who have not examined any paleoclimate data, satellite data, etc. and who let their lizard brain flight or flight fears overtake logic based on evidence. They are unable to realize their own confirmation bias but rely on it to ignore scientific evidence that challenges them.

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WCK on Thursday 03 May 2012 - 10:33:55 Booyah! Great News!!!!! All the peak energy fears and myths just went up in smoke. We now have successfully extracted Methane Hydrates from ice lattices in the Earth. The amount of energy available from MHs is 3 times more than all the oil and gas reserves for the entire world and will provide a thousand years of energy to the USA if needed. So much for fears of reliance on unstable regimes for energy. The USA has all the cheap cheap energy we need for future generations and now all we need is a president who is capable of putting together the necessary energy policy to create the pathway for doing so. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:46:27 typo alert, I meant to say that analysis shows that Obamacare will cost more than initially predicted. Sorry about the typo, not sorry about the CBO report. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:44:57 But I digress. Socialism has been trying to determine and decide what it is that science finds. And as we can see, science, real science is whooping its butt. Science doesn\'t care what religion you believe, your political party, whatever. It simply is what it is. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:42:42 I know of a singer in the UK who cannot afford the right care to fix his voice problem. The private care costs more and he cannot afford it because so much of his money is taken in taxes to pay for NHS, which will not fix his ailment. Problem is, voice ailments often coincide with digestive and food intake problems. Not to mention the waiting time, the govt\'s idea of triage. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:40:44 Yet our govt is doing just that with Obamacare, which will not cost more than the initial predictions. Both in cost of care and premium costs to participants, i.e., you and I. Because it cannot and will not work. And people that would normally not go to the hospital or doctor for a cold will do so. Why not? It\'s paid for, right? Which takes away resources and time from the people in dire need. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:38:58 I recently read an opinion that the austerity measures are \"not working\" for the euro crisis. Well, that\'s because socialists are incapable of cutting spending. They cannot and will not maintain a budget because it violates their faith. Such as Greece, who insists that govt employees should receive lifetime retirement at an early age. And if they pass on, the retirement stipend is transferrable to the family, who could live another 50 years, essentially, paying a stipend forever while GDP decreases through economy fluctuations, free market competition. The govt should not force you to pay a premium price. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:33:25 Faith that totally disregards basic math and science. Socialism is the belief that you can get 8 oz of water from a 6 oz glass. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:32:30 Point in fact, the faith that CO2 is causing global warming. Faith that wealth should be redistributed. Faith that everything a person has worked for is the property of someone else. Faith that the govt should provide to you your success, your healthcare, your education, your house (GSA\'s Freddie Mac and Sallie Mae) by literally forcing by govt fiat that banks be required to write and bundle sub-prime mortgages or lose their FDIC coverage and link to the Fed Reserve. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:29:46 It is, in fact, the point of politics to drive policy by ideals, fiat or beneficial. And socialism is a faith. It is faith rooted in another faith, fascism. Fascism not, in and of itself, the actions of Hitler. It is faith that the government could, would, and should take care of every step of your life. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:27:04 It\'s not just a matter of rhetoric to call Obama a socialist based on policies of his and those of supporters of him who are, themselves, socialists. It was an established, pubilshed fact. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:25:41 Back in his salad days, Obama was a registered socialist in Illinois, which allowed candidates to run on more than one party ticket. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:19:10 Not only does the govt mess up just about everything they try to \"fix,\" but especially so when in the hands of socailsts. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:17:53 And I can see we still have visitors that think that politics and their own faith should dictate science. Some things never change, I guess. Now, if we could just get the greenies to get rid of the fed ethanol requirement. There is a way to make car fuel out of natural gas that is way cheaper and much more efficient in horsepower per unit consumed than ethanol will ever be but the energy companies are not allowed to process it, by govt edict. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:14:46 But I have worked on enough houses to know what I am talking about. Helped a lady out one time. The house had electric heat, window a/c. She paid to have it changed to central a/c. The a/c guys tied the 30 amp (23 A FLC) into the same breaker as the 60 amp heater.Tripped it when the a/c came on because the breaker was detecting a difference in return current between the heater and the a/c. Got her a 30 for just the a/c and fit that in there. end of problem. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:11:16 Had a mild winter. Saved big time on energy costs. Which means that we didn\'t have to harvest as many resources. And, as an electrician, I can tell you that electric heat costs more than electric air-conditioning. In fact, I dare anyone to look at the electrical panel in their house if they have electric heat. Heater is on a 50 or 60 amp breaker. A/C on a 30, usually. My house, gas central heat, gas water heater, gas range. Electric A/C. ron on Sunday 29 April 2012 - 10:08:25 I smoked a brisket last weekend. The extra CO2 has caused my old-fashioned rose bush take up quite a bit of the fence on that side of the yard. It\'s about 10 wide and 6 feet tall, right now. I guess that\'s because CO2 is plant food, not a pollutant, as the president\'s EPA has decided. StopSmokingPot on Wednesday 25 April 2012 - 15:18:49 HA!...And now on stage "The New Jews on the Block! To be quite truthful, now that I think about ti I'm dumbfounded some Beverly Hills hack agent hasn't cobbled that one together already. WCK on Wednesday 25 April 2012 - 14:57:34 Take heart SSP there were a couple of scientists last week who spoke up in the LA Times noting that the global temperature was below normal for March 2012 and explaining how localized US heat was insignificant and that March 1910 was just as bad. Here is the latest from NCAR (Boss = Kevin Trenberth) showing that recent sea surface warming has all been due to natural causes. "A conclusion is that natural variability, rather than long term climate change, dominates the SST and heat flux changes over this 23 year period. On shorter time scales the relationship between SST and heat flux exhibits a variety of behaviors." Missing ocean heat is still missing and having James Lovelock admit to being wrong and too alarmist, should serve to disuade younger scientists from allowing activism to cloud judgement. BTW I like the "new jew on the block" quip and if jew is pluralized, it could be a good name for a boy band. lol StopSmokingPot on Wednesday 25 April 2012 - 14:26:08 here's a few useful idiots primed to be the new brown shirts for leftist causes across the board. They can be use as union purple [censored] thugs or moved into the fold of green shirts. they can be motivated through a # of leftist mass hate groups. StopSmokingPot on Wednesday 25 April 2012 - 13:59:55 WCK - Yes with thinking like that, even in leu of all the documented evidence of fraud and incompetence. So here we are... It feels a little like summer and fall-39 Poland, all going about their business knowing about the bellicose threats, but not being truly prepared. Till it all comes crashing down. Just goes to show you who decides what is considered "hate speech" and who can use it. Just think of some scientist on the so called denier side saying something like that, charges would be filed. I glad to be the new Jew on the block, but I won't be going to the chopping block without a fight. WCK on Wednesday 25 April 2012 - 13:16:59 SSP - I'm not sure if they want to debate or just want to condemn and punish you. "We know who the active denialists are — not the people who buy the lies, mind you, but the people who create the lies. Let’s start keeping track of them now, and when the famines come, let’s make them pay. Let’s let their houses burn. Let’s swap their safe land for submerged islands. Let’s force them to bear the cost of rising food prices. They broke the climate. Why should the rest of us have to pay for it?" - Steve Zwick @ Forbes FYI I baited Zwick months ago by placing IPCC AR4 report information that spoke to uncertainties in AGW in comments to one of his hate filled tirades to see if he knew any science. He responded directly to me and called me a denier. I then made him look like a fool by providing links to the IPCC and studies that I had used and let him know that I had tested him on his understanding of climate change and he failed. StopSmokingPot on Wednesday 25 April 2012 - 11:59:06 come on warmers... lose your cojones? come on back and tell us how stupid we all are for not following orders. StopSmokingPot on Tuesday 24 April 2012 - 23:26:34 one EPA hoax after another, FOIA to the rescue StopSmokingPot on Tuesday 24 April 2012 - 22:54:36 john woops I forgot to answer your question ...I can't seem to fathom why you are so insistent that global warming is a hoax." It's hoax because all the scientists that I've mentioned have taken the data and ginned it up for their cause "communism" no that they are communists card carrying...nope they are just idiots and useful oh yeah...regardless of the data. johnnn are you there? Past your bed time? Are you out with Al Gore and his secret service guys, spending tax dollars in some seedy part of some 3rd world country working with NGO's, keeping them from burning coal and oil to create industry, to break out of poverty?? StopSmokingPot on Tuesday 24 April 2012 - 22:41:36 I think it's time to stop calling them greenies because they are so much more then green. We need to call them watermelons, green on the outside red on the inside. StopSmokingPot on Tuesday 24 April 2012 - 21:42:44 StopSmokingPot on Tuesday 24 April 2012 - 21:29:44 ooohhh no when experts fall and..... doves cry...... boo hooo stopsmokingpot on Tuesday 24 April 2012 - 21:14:16 johnn I'm really quite honored to converse with such a intellectual like yourself that just trolls in the background laughing at such silly arguments, by goofy hayseeds such as myself, whom spend most of their free time drinking beer and cleaning their guns. How is it that such an enlightened individual as you aren't having breakfast in your robe with Al Gore or in big meeting's with Hansen discussing how to rid the world of deniers???? stopsmokingpot on Tuesday 24 April 2012 - 21:00:28 All your lying buds, Hanson, Mann, Lovelock, Monbiot, Gore, and a thousand others will be in jail before the sea waters rise or the ice caps melt... but then they keep pushing their end time theories back 25 years every 5. Gore and his friends are kind of like a bunch of Medieval Flagellator's, except for the fact that they the new postmodern Flagellator's don't beat themselves they beat society down, in medieval time people wise up and just laughed, but it's the people that are being forced flagellated so they will fight back. stopsmokingpot on Tuesday 24 April 2012 - 20:48:21 I'll answer you question... as long as green activists and their communist buds are demanding a complete social/economic control over my co2 and most likely my "methane" output, they seem to be interested in cow fartz, via Governments the UN, NGO's and control/destruction of what's "left" of the free market, and do all this social engineering with my tax dollars yes...we have an argument. Sorry if you just can't believe there are free thinkers left after such along slog of brainwashing through almost total control of the educational system and news delivery system. You almost had it all but for the internet and that most wonderful freedom tool FIOA...and Reagan getting rid of the "" Fairness Doctrine "". Sorry john but you can't upset me any more... or less then any other eco progressive.