WCK My last post was mainly meant for the Anon who asked what I did for a living but I have a few more facts to share. Our current grid loses roughly 30% of generated electricity in transmission. Off-grid solutions like Bloom Box eliminates that waste too. Americans hopefully will not be stupid enough to get involved in cap and trade as this would be the same as putting trillions of dollars in a big pile and lighting it on fire. James Hansen has already sent Barack Obama a letter outlining why cap and trade won't lower CO2 output and that is probably why Obama has provided such lackluster support for cap and trade. Analysis of the “large economy” Kyoto members demonstrated the ineffectiveness of cap and trade to reduce CO2. Only one country France with nuclear power has been effective in reducing CO2. Why would we want to send money overseas in some cap and trade scam when we could invest that money in free market solutions here, that will actually work to provide clean cheap energy?


WCK I am an inventor and entrepreneur. I am confident that free market capitalism and the American entrepreneurial spirit will provide cheap clean energy. Here's one example.

Average US home = 11,040 kWh/year in electricity = 6.3 tons/year of CO2 for coal powered energy.

Bloom Industries is planning to introduce a 2x3x3 foot sized off-grid unit for about $3,000 that can generate the same 11,040 kWh/year while emitting less than .01 tons/year using NG or Bio gas. Companies like Bay, Google, Fed Ex and Walt Mart already have the $700,000/box commercial sized version. Bay will recoup the cost of their 5 Bloom Boxes within 20 years and factoring in depreciation will cut energy costs by $4 million in that 20 years. It is much more reliable and cheaper than solar or wind and it won't kill birds or need all the water that is needed to keep solar panels clean.


RGB Anon: Think about this one - really think - the Vikings mapped the north coast of Greenland.


stop smoking pot hmm more moister in the atmosphere?
I'm in LA not much moister, I know people in Las Vegas,
even less moister
how bout them in Florida with the alleged "AGW" hurricane barreling down, gotta be more moister there.
Moister is like the wind it blows all over the place.


stop smoking pot Anon who says I got anything from ...the "drrreaded" Fox News?... "EVIL disseminators of more then one side of a story." (must be crushed) Perhaps they got it from me?

WCK wow! Lee? Perhaps another
typical registered democrat? This should really take fire, and show just how crazy the environmental movement has become. All seems to go back to the "AGENDA"
of depopulating the earth I'm glad the cops started with him.


wck there not their


WCK i"...it is physics. warmer temperatures carry more moister."

Anon - I'm glad you finally want to discuss the science. Are you saying that their is more moisture in the atmosphere?


WCK Police shoot and kill enviro alarmist. He wanted to save the planet.

<Lee said at the time that he experienced an ‘‘awakening” when he watched former Vice President Al Gore’s environmental documentary ‘‘An Inconvenient Truth.”>



George Carlin had some insight about people who want to save the planet.





Anonymous so how does any of the prove AGW is a hoax? all it proves is that you are an idiot who believes everything he hears on fox news.


stop smoking pot When I was a kid I lived in New Orleans "early 60's" I survived bigger hurricanes then Katrina. Poor upkeep of the levees are not the cause of "AGW"

Why don't you go help the flood victims... You do know that they are attacking non- Moslems for helping them so bring an M-16.

And after you man up and find your D&B's, do like the scarecrow and find a brain.

Again, you seem to think the weather events during your life time are some how worse than the past weather... Are you some how special or deserve special punishment?
Or do you think the weather is out to get you because of the sins of your ancestors?


Anonymous pot smoker. it is physics. warmer temperatures carry more moister.

but it's o.k. I know you don't understand physics.

this year has been full of events. (aka evidence) 1 percent rise is a big deal.

man up?? tell that to the survivors of Katrina, or the survivors of the Pakistan floods.

why don't you man up and travel there to help the flood victims out?

maybe then you'd get a taste of the real world effects that are actually occurring. 1% is a huge deal when talking in terms of global events.

Hey wck. what studies have you done? what do you do for a living? how many blog posts by idiots to you read instead of reading scientific literature?


err on the good or thaw the Alaskan permafrost


err on the good and melt thousnds of years of snow from kilimanjaro


err on the good hurts eh? if i'm wrong the oil consumption goes down...if you are wrong you fund terrorist


must be impossible to admit your a parrot for saudi arabia


Anonymous readers notice the non denial of the fact fox news is backed by oil money


WCK "There is growing empirical evidence that warming temperatures cause more intense hurricanes, heavier rainfalls and flooding, increased conditions for wildfires and dangerous heat waves."

Anon - again you claim that the above is " your point". This is now the third time I've caught you plagerizing the "Skeptical Science" blog. I consider that to be enough emperical evidence that you are a lying dirtbag troll presenting the words of others as your own.


I would appreciate it if you could please identify yourself as "plagerizing dirtbag troll" in the future? Thanks in advance.


stop smoking pot Anon: There's is no evidence that warmer world wide weather causes more intense hurricanes flooding or wild fires. we are talking on average less then 1 degree rise in 100 years.
A 1 degree average lowering of world wide temperature could be said to have these effects. You act like the weather we have is some how worse then our great grandfathers, or something. Man up boy, you're a wimp.


Anonymous really? floods and droughts have been with us for all time? i did not know that. thank you for informing me of that. I wasn't smart enough to figure that out.

Now, back to my point:

There is growing empirical evidence that warming temperatures cause more intense hurricanes, heavier rainfalls and flooding, increased conditions for wildfires and dangerous heat waves.


Anonymous so how about some balance to your record perth temperature:

Global warming is a reality already with us. The 1990s were the warmest decade on record, about 0.6 of a degree celcius (°C) warmer than 100 years ago. Australia has warmed by 0.7 °C between 1910 – 1999, with most of this increase occurring since 1950 (CSIRO, 2001).

the average for all of Australia is higher, regardless of your one record cold temperature in Perth.


stop smoking pot Anon: The great lake temps are all suspect in accuracy at this point or do you only watch CNN? Floods and droughts have been with us for all time the propaganda used to say they are record anything is also suspect. Since accurate records are suspect for most of this because they've been gathering this stuff for only a few hundred years and the gathering process have evolved and changed during that time.
Climactically or geologically who's to say what's what or who's on first?


WCK Oops I forgot about Perth weather.

"Winter records set in Perth"

"A winter record was also set with the mean minimum temperature for the three months hitting 6.4C."



If you only focus on hot weather that can not be attributed to man you might be a catastrophic warming hypochondriac. lol


Anonymous and another thing fox news is a holding of a saudi oil magnate..hmm.could it be he bought his share of the news


Anonymous WCK your post admits the warming..cherry picking? Warming is good.


WCK Here is Lake Superior as monitored by MSU. When you check/click on the map for temperatures you get this warning:

NOTICE (8/11/2010) Due to degradation of a satellite sensor used by this mapping product, some images have exhibited extreme high and low surface temperatures. Please disregard these images as anomalies. Future images will not include data from the degraded satellite and images caused by the faulty satellite sensor will be/have been removed from the image archive.

I really can't refute data that is admittedly unreliable due to sensor degradation possibly for as long as ten years. I'm not a miracle worker.