Denny Oh my! You need to read Climate Audit but you need to go thru Climate Depot to get there. I've email Admin. wondering what happened to our connection to Climate Audit.


Oh my! The hackers have done now. I can't wait for the media spin on this one. this should be really good, especially for the politicos.


Denny WCK, Good night! Hey, it's just another day of "Climate Change".


Windy City Kid I got in earlier but the CRU article wasn't up yet. I have quickly scanned the 140+ responses about 5 minutes ago and most of the memos are what I have already read elsewhere. I will check back later today when more comes out. I'm afraid I'll have nightmares about flesh eating climate scientist zombies but I'm going to bed anyway.LOL Good night Denny.


Denny WCK, have you been over to CA? It's really hard to get in! I was wondering whether I was having computer problems....I got thru and I saw why!


Denny WCK, I don't know for sure but for what I've seen so far...It looks very real to me...There's really no way to change all of this info...Yes, one has to be skeptical of some possible implants but overall from what I just read...Wow!


Windy City Kid Well if these memos are the real deal, there are some real activist scumbags pretending to be climate scientists. I'm hoping they are fake as this would destroy the last shred of faith in humanity that I have.


Windy City Kid Denny and admin disregard my previous post. I see you already are aware of the situation and have a link. Thanks!


Windy City Kid Denny and or Admin. There was a smoking gun at another blog with a link to over 1,000 memos implicating HadCRUT and others in a cabal to supress climate data. The link was removed for fear of legal reprise as it is suspected that the HadCrut computers had been hacked into. Is there any other news or has anyone made copies of the memos.


ron Usually, the stock retort was that AGW skeptics were funded by "big oil". When it turns out that we aren't, then we're not "well organized." Well, science doesn't hinge on whether we have a secret handshake or a patch for our jacket. Science is simply there. You're statement implies that AGW believers are organized and that somehow makes you more right. Why? Because you are organized and have rehearsed rhetoric? I'm still waiting on a scientific debate.


ron And yeah, I know more science than the president, which is not saying a lot, and I can recite it without a tele-prompter. And a scientific fact is valid regardless of what party you vote for. The government doesn't decide what science is.


ron Hmmm, you should listen to how political and unscientific you sound. So, you think scientific validity is based on "credibility" based on where they have the chatbox? Or that skeptics don't have an "organised" opposition and you do, I suppose? Not once in you reply did you even rely on science. Instead, your points are made with political terms. Science is science, whether it is politically popular or not. We don't define a science by voting on it or how well we "package it" to the voting electorate.


Hmmm If I were you, and if I wanted my site to have any credibility, I would remove this chat section from the front page as it reduces your valid scientific arguments to a lot of chitchat between disaffected youths with nothing better to do than sit on the internet all day. Unless this is that kind of site, I would hide this section. The president comes here to see what you are up to you say? I bet he is laughing also, since he certainly doesn't have top worry about any organised opposition.


Denny Anonymous, we have 450 papers in the "Latest Forum Post Section" on this site!

Do you have anything more specific???


Anonymous hi im doing a research paper on facts that say global warming is a hoax...any ideas?


ron I read it. Even though some may poop on the algebra, the principle is the same as what I have been saying. CO2 cannot have the conscious ability to direct its re-emission only toward the ground. It will happen in all directions. So, heat radiates away like it always has, maybe more effciently, Maybe just the same, regardless. And CO2, like any gas, transfers its to any cooler gas or area or substance as soon as it encounters it. Basic physics. It's why your air conditioner works. And that's why I say that CO2 can't hold in anything. It merely changes slightly the heat exchange rate, and that is only at 2.5 and 15.7 microns.



Denny ron, have you seen this paper yet?




Denny ron, yea, all we get here is one sentence remarks from the Alarmists!
Except, I have noticed that more People requesting info on AGW from our site....which is good! Mostly students so they claim...


ron And, as I have predicted here and on other blogs and chats, not one AGW alarmist can answer my challenge other than repeating the catechism of St. Gore, as was evidenced by the few here that at least came up with something in the name header. They simply reiterated. Not one could explain how they expect CO2 to re-emit it's IR at 2.5 and 15.7 microns (and any stratospheric cooling is at 6.5 microns, which is water vapor) only at the surface at the planet. To be fair, it can't. No gas can do that. But I was willing to see if any one would be as silly as Akers was in his debate with Piers Corbyn, when he was about to say that it was silly that plants needed CO2, when the host cut it short. But no takers, so far. ho hum ...


ron Thanks, Denny. I saw Lord Monckton's mathematical gauntlet, which states even more clearly what the article was stating, which is what I have been saying all along. First, the earth is not a closed system. The atmosphere, with varying layers of density, is not a closed system. But even if it were, like a framed and enclosed hothouse, it would still radiate heat away at a certain temperature that establishes equilibrium between inside and outside. However, our atmosphere, containing no such hard metal layer, convects more rapidly and easily. Prof is shown by Prof. Lindzen.


Denny ron, very interesting article! Monckton even posted there with a question!! That site is covered by a lot of people!


Denny ron, check out the latest post on WUWT. Willis Eschenbach is giving His view on the "Greenhouse Effect".




Denny Anonymous person who fails at, could you more explicit? This Site has it all! Just gotta know where to look! If you need help, let Us know..or go to the "Main Menu" and click on "Videos, Forums, Newsfeeds, Links, etc.. Plenty of info there plus we now have 450 Peer Reviewed Papers posted. Any subject cover there in AGW Realist arsenal.


Denny DonnieRonnie, here's a start with Prof. Lindzen:



Next is Dr. Spencer:

Both of these denouce CO2 causing AGW! Let Us know if you need more help! Thanks for stoping by!. Oh, one more thing.,. If you go to the "Latest Forum Posts" section in the middle of this site, click on the 450 Peer Reviewed Papers for Sceptics. It's broke down into 3 parts. It covers numerous subjects!


SFM It depends. If her teacher has been brainwashed and she wants to make an A she should just make up facts and figures showing how man is evil and wants to melt all the ice, kill all the polar bears, flood all the coastal cities, starve people in poor countries and cause endless hurricanes and droughts. If her teacher wants the truth send your sister here.