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»August 2010 UAH Global Temperature Update: +0.51 deg. C
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»Light Bulb Factory Closes; End of Era for U.S. means More Jobs Overseas
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»Oxburgh Tricks the Committee: 45 Hours in Norwich
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stop smoking pot
08 Sep : 15:20
Hey now! "H. was a Socialist" He was not right wing...
left equals totalitarian Govt.
Centrist equals
limited Govt.
Right equals,
No Govt./ anarchy.

That's the true break down


WCK
08 Sep : 15:13
I thought everyone already knew that the modern environmental movement had its roots in the "Green Wing" of the Nazi Party.



It is easy enough to visit CPUSA to learn that the majority of the Progressive's ideas came from Communism.




Hitler was a socialist
08 Sep : 12:27
To the last Anonymous: Have you heard of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (National-Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei--NSDAP)? That was Hitler's political party. They were known as the Nazis.

During the war Hitler suspended many "rights", as do most governments during time of war. But Hitler was a right wing socialist and his beliefs were much the same as that of the modern day socialist liberals.

Its funny that Hitler came to power due to the hard economic times following the depression. Using fear and promises of a better life for the people of Germany. Much the same thing as "hope and change" Obama. Hitler blamed the Jews, Obama blames the Christians. Scary.


stop smoking pot
08 Sep : 11:06
Liberal is a stolen word by the left just as progressive is a stolen word by the left, on the left you have the various forms of Marxism, they are socialists, fascists, nazis, communists, then the happy words the try to hide behind, Liberal, Progressive, Social Democrats,
Progressive Democrats,
Democrats, last but not least,
Environmentalist.


Anonymous
07 Sep : 20:23
you are a moronic canadian. you can find history books in canada, can't you?

real ones! open a text book and stop reading your favorite conspiracy theory websites.


Anonymous
07 Sep : 20:21
in which bogus science literature did you obtain this uncommon knowledge from?

since when is the fascist Hitler a liberal???

since when are communists like mao and stalin liberals?

you don't have a clue on this earth about politics.

you've been brainwashed into thinking that anyone who is not on the extreme American flag waving right wing is out to get you! lol

wow. unbelievable.


hitler a liberal?????? you really don't have a clue about politics or science.

wow. I've never heard anyone get political ideologies so screwed up.



RGB
07 Sep : 18:38
Anon:
Maxing out @ 60 PPM is pretty much common knowledge. What part of quantum physics am i violating? As I asked before, how does AGW fit into the medieval warming period? I'll answer, it doesn't. Therefore it had to be something else. Right. Do you follow? Something like the sun and/or storms thereon, cosmic rays, etc. CO2 had nothing to do with it. Period. End of story. The only constant in nature is change. Live with it.


RGB
07 Sep : 18:22
Anon:
Maybe you should read some history, Stalin, Mao, Hitler 150 million plus. Cambodia, Ukraine et al. Damn you don't know anything - must be an art's student. Keep reading fiction. By the way, I'm a Canadian, moron.


Anonymous
07 Sep : 18:06
during which war did these supposed liberals murder 150 people? wow, you must be from the US. I've never heard such a screwed up sense of history in my life.


Anonymous
07 Sep : 17:59
If there is no greenhouse effect, and water vapor, co2, methane and other greenhouse gasses don't warm up the atmosphere, then why isn't the earth the same temperature as space???

I'd love to hear you explain that one!


Anonymous
07 Sep : 17:54
the effects of co2 max out? that goes against physics. Are you trying to re-write the laws of thermal dynamics and quantum physics?

we all know that the earth has been warmer and cooler in the past. that does not disprove the physics of thermal dynamics.

you should write a book about everything you know about thermal dynamics. It would be a short and hysterical read.

where do you come up with this nonsense?


Anonymous
07 Sep : 17:49
ddt hoax? so you think ddt is not an extremely toxic substance?

are you willing to bet your life on that? why don't you go bathe in ddt to see what occurs?


RGB
07 Sep : 17:38
Anon:
The left murdered, it is estimated, over 150 million people last century. That's not counting the millions who died from malaria due to the DDT hoax. The effects of CO2 max out at 60 PPM, which we have been over for centuries. Please explain AGW back in the medieval times when it was warmer then than it is now.


stop smoking pot
07 Sep : 15:35
How much is to much Anon??
all the CO2 makes up only 1 10th of 1 percent of our total atmosphere, man made CO2, that "the evil CO2" according to you makes up only 1 20th of that!!
The amount of CO2 and radiation you warmist keep hanging on to up in the stratosphere is crazy, that's 20 miles up and then you keep telling me that radiation comes back down through the commercial air traffic at 35,000 feet that happens to be around minus 45 degrees F.!!

And still has the ability to warm up the planet??


R.Danneskjöld
07 Sep : 14:51
Anonymous (or any other alarmist): So if we keep adding CO2 to the atmosphere the world will continue to warm? Regardless of how much CO2 we add?


stop smoking pot
07 Sep : 13:57
Ha!

I have a blackberry
and haven't been to Disney for 40 years... Unlike
err and anon, who obviously go every DAY!


Anonymous
07 Sep : 13:04
and gore has nothing to do the the science of global warming. He did not make up the physics that occurs when we add pollution to this world.

once again, you confuse science with politics.

co2 absorbs radiation. more co2 creates a warmer environment. We have the technology to measure the difference between naturally occurring co2 and co2 induced by man. we have measured it. we know what man has caused and what we have not. and of course we continue to learn more. but the more we learn, the more we find the science to say the same thing.


Anonymous
07 Sep : 13:04
to say that terrorists get support from liberal minded Americans is a complete lie. you obviously don't have a clue what liberals value or support. it is not killing innocent people, that is for sure.




err on the good
06 Sep : 21:48
won't someof your saudi backers kick in?
saudi's back other terrorist


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WCK
04 Sep : 10:24
SSP - thanks.

RGB - I think anon & err (likely the same person) are kids playing on the board spouting "progressive" talking points. They feel that FOX is owned by Saudis who fund terror with oil $. The Saudi that has FOX shares, Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, owns them through his Kingdom Holding Company who has ownership in many US companies. Gosh I didn't realize that by buying an Apple I-Phone or going to Disney World I was funding terrorism. Anyway News Corp went "green" in 2006 and accepted global warming as fact.


RGB
03 Sep : 17:45
Re: Fox News
Who owns the most. You say the Saudis are #2. What are the percentages?. Means sweet tweet if it's 99 & 1%. The main concern would be if suddenly Fox became pro-Islamic, I don't watch it, so I don't know. However I haven't seen or heard that this is the case.


stop smoking pot
03 Sep : 17:37
The less drilling the higher the price of oil.
The only problem is that the enviros and govt. regulation have made drilling in the U.S. to expensive. Even though oil reserves in the U.S. land mass have the same amounts of oil that the Gulf has.
It would be much safer to drill on land then in deep water.


stop smoking pot
03 Sep : 15:20
""isn't President Obama aiding and abetting terrorists by placing a moratorium on drilling in the gulf and forcing us to import more foreign oil?""

BINGO! Touche' WCK


WCK
03 Sep : 13:42
Question for Err. Based on your belief that $ for foreign oil supports terrorism, isn't President Obama aiding and abetting terrorists by placing a moratorium on drilling in the gulf and forcing us to import more foreign oil? Doh!


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Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979
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Contrary to media reports Antarctic sea ice continues to expand. Ice totals for November 2009 are significantly higher than 1979 when measurements began. The main stream media concentrates on a couple of small areas of the Antarctic in order to scare you in to believing that Antarctica is melting, when in fact its gaining ice.

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Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979Curious_Cat |10 Dec : 07:58
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What about the other side?

Re: Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979Anonymous |01 Jan : 21:03
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Your numbers doesn't fit with the graph from your source

Nov 2009 extent sea level was around 10,25 millions km2


Re: Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979Anonymous |26 Jan : 05:06
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West Antarctica has long been losing land ice mass. Since 2006, East Antarctica, long thought to be in a steady state of mass balance, has also shown a decline in land ice mass. Overall, loss of land ice mass in Antarctica is accelerating. Those are the facts.
As for your claim that the scientific community is ignoring the issue of Antarctic sea ice, it is also patently false. Scientists readily admit that sea ice has increased, and even a quick google search turns up references to peer reviewed studies offering expanations for this phenomenon. Search for Gillet 2003, Thompson 2002, Turner 2009, and Zhang 2007. Get your facts right people!

Re: Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979Guest |04 Feb : 16:10
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Great, but where are your sources? I men allthis info would be useful to use as long as havel legit sources of info so i can trully argue in agaisnt global warming.

Re: Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979Anonymous |26 Feb : 14:17
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Like the University of Colorado?

Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979R.Danneskjöld |10 Dec : 09:25
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Its amazing how "the other side" can make anything sound bad.

The temperatures over the Antarctica landmass are far too cold for the ice to be melting. The mean annual temperature of the interior is −57°C (−70°F), and only up to -35 degrees Celsius in the summer months. The fringe coastal edges of this huge continent can get up to -5 to +5 Celsius in Summer (for very brief periods).

Obviously its too cold for the ice to melt so what could cause less ice? Colder temperatures and clear skies! As it gets colder the air dries and it snows less (that is indisputable). Under clear skies ice can disappear due to sublimation and photo disassociation. Neither of these have anything to do with global warming.

In fact pollution during the 60's, 70's and 80's probably caused more antarctic snowfall than normal as fine particulate carbon soot and other particulate levels reflected the sun's rays back in to space and caused heavier snow amounts. When Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines blew in June, 1991 its massive blast cause a period of global cooling. Soot particulates also caused above normal snow falls in many areas. Ice levels have been "normalizing" over Antarctica ever since.

Today most black soot pollution comes from smaller 3rd world countries from the inefficient burning of coal, wood, and dung for personal cook fires and heating. Black carbon soot near the source actually causes warming, while small particulates reaching upper levels of the atmosphere reflect the suns rays and cause cooling over areas far from the original source. (See this article and links at the bottom)

Be wary when someone tells you that antarctic ice is "melting", that isn't going to happen even under the worst case IPCC (bogus) predictions. If antarctic ice levels are decreasing that is because of colder temperatures and cleaner air, not because of global warming.

For more information on Mount Pinatubo see the following:

Ragnar - Pirating for Freedom

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Actually, Antarctic sea ice almost completely melts and reforms every year. Evidently, temperatures must be a little warmer than -70 degrees. The media hasn't reported the statistically insignificant increase of .09% increase in Antarctic sea ice over the past several decades because it isn't a story. Similarly, a .09% decrease wouldn't be a story either. The stories that are reported, such as the melting Aortic polar ice, represent changes much greater than .09%.

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One small correction; higher temperatures increase the rate of sublimation, that is, more water sublimates at -55 degrees than at -60, so technically, slight warming could in fact result in increased mass loss even though the ice never melts and result in a higher vapor pressure above the land mass.

Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979Tommybird |17 Dec : 12:56
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This sounds interesting, but I'm not sure what weight to give it. What's the source for this information? Who conducted the research? How did they come up with their conclusions? Was this peer reviewed? Until we know this, the content of the article is suspect. This person could have fabricated this all. Or it could be true. We won't know until the author(s?) submit to the scientific process.

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Source: From the National Snow and Ice Data Center, University of Colorado

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Actually, Antarctic sea ice almost completely melts and reforms every year.

Not true

Your source says no such thing

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He did give his source for the data - National Snow & Ice Data Ctr. at the University of Colorado. Not only that but look at the pictures for yourself.

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There’s far more evidence to suggest that pot smoking causes adult onset psychosis, as demonstrated by Al Gore’s delusional poetry, than there is proof that global warming even exists. It takes an IQ greater than one’s shoe size to pen something comparable to poetry, yet in addition to his substantial carbon footprint, Al Gore stands to net billions of US dollars for his global warming scam, upon none of which will he pay taxes.

In 1971, I first encountered the GLOBAL WARMING CULT. Terry McAuliffe was pushing the fledgling global flooding ideology out of a cleverly named unisex-clothing shop called Hang-Ups, in a converted African American Church, acquired under false pretenses and wittily christened THE ARK, on South Patrick Street, in Alexandria, Virginia. As a live music venue, THE ARK would easily eclipse New York’s already famous Fillmore East, but folded a short time later due to corrupt business practices.

Although persuasive, the global flooding argument didn't ring true. I knew that NASA, the military and government agencies did extensive climate research, and said as much. If global warming could melt the polar ice caps and thus cause global flooding by 1976, the alarm should come from the aforementioned sources. Perhaps not coincidentally, by 1976 the Earth’s fossil fuel deposits would also be depleted. It was a grim scenario. Terry McAuliffe, who probably named THE ARK himself, took me aside and explained, when it came to global warming; you couldn’t trust the government.

As we know, 1976 came and went without a global catastrophe. I still had that $45-dollar pair of striped slacks just like Hillary’s. I don’t know which was worse. I never regretted being booted from the cabal (I was hardly ever in), and never expected to run into Terry or his disciples again, especially decades later in sunny California. Yet there they were on the Central Coast, whistling the same old tune with some major new variations. They’d applied the global warming hysteria to higher education. Like global warming itself, education now became a massive fraud scheme designed to enrich the GLOBAL WARMING CULT. By 1995, The Brethren Of The Coast had grown exponentially. There would be much more to manmade global warming than mere water spotting:

Ps. Of course should one believe global warming proponent Bill Clinton, and like I mean who doesn’t, he didn’t inhale; now it’s supposed to get colder before it gets warmer.




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You calling Global Warming a 'cult" is so redundant. This website is a 'cult' too.

Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979Anonymous |18 Dec : 15:31
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wow...im sooo happy that this site is "Non-partisan" and "non-religious based"....wait, its not! i really wish the completely idiotic, probably teeth-missing people would learn to not say what they think...and even more so, that they wouldnt put it on the internet! this graph looks completely BS, hardly a scientific graph , which the people that put it on here would know if they had actually taken a science class, and not just dropped out of high school! Global warming is a scientific fact based off of the greenhouse affect, which has been taught in colleges all around the world for who knows how long! it is also based off of history; the industrial revolution which, dont get me wrong, is a great thing, may have really been a large cause for global climate change. but i also believe that 10 year old children and probably younger were working full-time jobs in the absolutely worst conditions, with no one to take their side against industry, and would die if they quit, at about the same time as the industrial revolution! just gives you a little insight into the precautions taken around that time and the level of intelligence that a majority of the population had. i mean, if children werent even cared for in that time, why would the atmosphere and climate be cared for?
IF YOU DO NOT ACTUALLY KNOW THE SUBJECT MATTER, DO NOT COMMENT PLEASE!!!
im not sure anymore if it is the greenhouse affect that is warming our planet, or just that our planet is covered in warm-blooded morons!

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Hey nut bag left wing liberal. Explain to me the reason that more than 10,000 years ago glaciers slid down from upper north america thus forming the delta land in Mississippi and Arkansas and also gave us the Ms. river. There wasnt industy at that time. Does "CYCLIC" mean anything to you or have you been "GOERISIZED"? You probably were the co-inventor of the internet. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!

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Hey Born with a brain, if you really were born with a brain you could argue using scientific facts rather then insults. You have no facts therefor you use insults. You should have called yourself, "born without a brain"...

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you are an idiot. We're discussing global warming and here you are talking about the poor children. WHAT THE [censored] does that have to do with the earth "warming". So mr science-tastic how about you pull some "real" credible graphs out of your ass. We already know that scientists are BS so are you going to trust their graphs? I hope not. The ocean causes 80% of global climate change and has for millennia. The oceans still here and always has been. We have records of huge climate change so catastrophic that we can still find its marks here today. We weren't even their so take you fake BS and go take you hateful scepticism to government and scientists that are already kissing each others asses.

Re: Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979Anonymous |06 Jan : 22:23
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Wow! You're an idiotic moron! You've got some nerve telling others not to write on here if they don't know the subject matter. What are your credentials?? Do you have a degree in meteorology, science perhaps?? I doubt it! Why don't you check with the University of Colorado directly if you don't believe this guy? Are you afraid of what you might find? The truth perhaps? Are you aware that the #1 contributor to greenhouse gases is volcanoes?? Those pesky things..maybe we should just dig those up and throw them in the ocean! That's how ridiculous this whole global warming scam is! By the way, nobody disputes that there was an ice age...yet all that ice melted before man even existed! Hmmm.. how do you suppose that happened? Go educate yourself!!

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There are facts here. There are just as many facts here as someone like Al Gore gives in his false graphs. Everything is a theory and cannot be proven. So don't criticize either side.

Don't believe the hoaxBeliever |19 Dec : 16:41
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The global warming is a hoax and so are all other warnings of pollution and natural resource depletion and the limits of growth.

Don't believe the hoax, believe the truth. Because the world around you isn't defined by facts, it's only defined by what you believe.

Someone may tell you that the world is like Thelma & Louise in the final scene of the movie. Sitting in a car headed towards a 2000-foot cliff,

the gas pedal pressed to the floor. You may see the cliff ahead but if you BELIEVE very hard then the cliff may not really be there after all. So

there is no need to lift your foot from the gas pedal or turn the steering wheel. Just put the pedal to the metal and stay the course. Because if

you just BELIEVE that there is no cliff then there is no cliff and you can drive on happily forever.

Because the globe isn't really warming, it may be even cooling down a bit. The Earth isn't being polluted - if you believe, then pollution is

surely decreasing constantly and will soon be only a problem of the past. Natural resources aren't running out, in fact Earth's natural resources

are infinite and will never run out. We can keep our lifestyles and habits and never change a thing, and keep on living like we do forever and

ever.

Our mines will never run out of minerals. Seas will never run out of fish even if we catch more fish than what grows in Earth's oceans. Our soil

will never be polluted and it will never be a problem, so let's just ignore that and keep increasing industry output without oversight. Greed

simply works best. There are no limits to growth, we can continue to upgrade our standard of living infinitely.

Oil will never run out. If you believe it, then God is constantly creating new oil in Earth's mantle and it will keep seeping to the ground

endlessly. Peak oil doesn't exist. Oil production can increase indefinetely. In a hundred years we will all be literally swimming in oil, if you

just believe.

So why worry, why be an alarmist, why prepare ahead. It's just best to do nothing and believe the 2000-foot cliff ahead does not exist and we

will never reach it. Let's keep consuming as much oil as possible, because the fact is that it is an increase in your standard of living if you

buy a car that is less fuel efficient than your old car. Because then you can consume more oil. Let's keep using non-renewable natural resources

and not recycle anything. Recycling doesn't work. Spending does work. Let's keep using one and half times the Earth's output and aim for using

even more. Let's encourage everybody else to increase their spending, too. It simply won't be a problem if one day the Earth's population is

using twenty times the Earth's natural resource output. That equation works quite well.

Because the cliff ahead doesn't exist. So there is no need to prepare. Just believe.

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you are an idiot. please stop trying to talk with the adults.

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Even the idiotic comments are appreciated. Consider the source and HOAX is clear. Then this: REMEMBER THAT THE CREATOR WILL PROTECT US .!. It seems to be an argument of the godless and those supporting TRUTH.

Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979Yomikey |19 Dec : 17:39
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It's really surprising, how one can be so seriously misinformed and/or gullible, "Anonymous". How about a name to go with your almost legible albeit misguided rantings? Also, it would genuinely be in your best interest to learn to spell correctly. Secondly, and closely allied with the aforementioned, proper punctuation and attention to context is not a bad thing, particularly if you wish to be taken seriously. Thirdly, it's clearly not a graph (Hey! Look closely, no bars or lines!), it is only a graphic representation of roughly three decades of accumulated data (NASA, NOAA, Max Planck Institute, as well as from other sources), meant only to quickly illustrate to the viewer the changes in sea ice extent in the Antarctic region.
I took the opportunity of accessing the NSIDC website and, while it's not the easiest site in which to locate items of interest, it is possible if you're willing, and willing to be patient. The data you seem to feel is bogus has been properly researched, peer-reviewed and vetted, and is available to you, again if you are willing to research properly, instead of just babbling and putting people down (which I must confess I am guilty of here, mea culpa). Global warming is far from being a "scientific fact", and even the strongest science-based proponents know better than to subscribe to that, especially now, thanks in part to deliberately falsified computer modeling, where the data has been directly (even erroneously) coded into the model itself instead of being applied TO it. Try this link for more info on the climate model code snafu, don't worry, it's virus-free:

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Just food for thought, who benefits from the type of legislation that the world is seeking? Funny if you follow the money the biggest supporters of "Climate Change" are the ones who stand to benefit most from the laws that will be formed. Any scientist who opposes "Climate Change" is attacked and destroyed. I wish people would read for themselves and make up their own mind. To do that requires an open mind. Take heart, time will sniff out the truth. There was a time when, the earth was flat, objects of larger mass fell faster..... and on and on. The scientists who went against these thoughts were in the minority and attacked for what they theorized.

Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979um......the_defenseless_animals_you're_killing |03 Jan : 12:45
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[censored] stupid. global warming is going to change the world whether you believe it's true or not.

Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979Common_sense_is_not_common! |05 Jan : 09:52
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Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979um......the_defenseless_animals_you're_killing |03 Jan : 13:45
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Reply to this [censored] stupid. global warming is going to change the world whether you believe it's true or not.


Um... Only partially right there my friend. The earth will continue to heat up AND cool whether you believe it's real or not. Just like most everything else patterns emerge and will repeat themselves. It's not man-made, never has been and probably never will be!

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Mr.Anonymous i'd just like to point out that your accusations about the BS scientists is BS in itself, you fight not to trust these scientists with facts that you have stolen from SCIENTISTS. did you go and figure out the 80% of global climate change is caused by the ocean! i don't think so, a REAL scientist did. and i find how hypocritical you are, quite amusing. "hateful scepticism" practicially defining yourself aren't you?!?People have the right to believe whatever they feel is right, and why do you feel the need to ruin that? Your probably some lonely bitter person that has nothing better to do than rudely bully people over the internet, to make yourself feel better. You know just because i believe in these kind of things doesn't mean i'm "completely idiotic, probably teeth-missing". Lastly i'd like to point out that missing teeth does NOT equal stupidity, and for you to get all sterotypical like that shows just how immature and unreliable you and your information is!

Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979SpidermanTUba |06 Jan : 10:29
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Contrary to what media reports? The expansion of the Antarctic ice is a well known fact, this isn't news.

Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979Redmj74 |07 Jan : 21:02
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I dont see why the "other side" needs ramming down peoples throats here. When the "other side" get about 99.9% of the mainstream news outlet. Do the greenies feel even that isnt enough?

Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979lololol |21 Jan : 17:09
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lolololololglobalwarmingishoaxlolololol

How about we all act like adults?And_respect_each_others'_opinions |22 Jan : 10:58
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To assume anyone is an idiot simply from a blog post seems ludicrous to me. I doubt anyone here is a fully trained climatologist. This is a problem that both ideologies face, and to find a solution, we need to discuss the problem like "adults".

From the leftist perspective, the prospect of global warming is a frightening one, with humanity on the brink of near extinction due to polluted rivers, reduction in drinkable water throughout the world, increasing sea levels, etc. etc. Whether or not you agree with this, unless you are a trained climatologist, you have no right to call someone an idiot either way.

From the rightist perspective,"green" enterprises marks an ever increasing government regulation of business. I would imagine that Green renovation of business infrastructures comes at a large cost, especially for the bigger businesses, and who do you think suffers from the cut in profits? Most likely the lower classes.

I, as a liberal, believe that global warming exists. However, in the interest of actual adult discussion, I try to understand and respect both sides, even if I choose to disagree with one.

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whatis the point of having pro-global warming liberals on an anti- global warming website IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE!!!!!

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Because they feel they need to change everyone to think as they do. No different is a liberal than someone of religion, I am right and you should believe me.

We as a whole are very ignorant in our knowledge of global warming, if it does exist? Our research into global warming is as a newborn and we are basing our limited amount of information gathered over a very short time on concepts that we really know very little about.

I won't say our actions on earth don't effect the climate, but I won't say it causes major changes either. People tend to grab onto things put out there and believe what they hear (on the news, or from TV stars) regardless of the truth. Living in ignorance is easier than actually studying and learning the truth.

Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979little_green_men |14 Feb : 12:40
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Please see the following site:


Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979little_green_men |14 Feb : 12:46
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For a good understanding of this seasons cold snaps see:


Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979Rich |16 Feb : 08:12
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Since the article cites the National Snow and Ice Data Center, let's see what they have to say about global warming:


Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979normz |17 Feb : 18:57
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it's so funny how all you can be so ignorant to the fact that the ice caps are indeed melting. there is no denying it, there scientific evidence proving it. the bush administration destroyed the documents proving that global warming is happening. the more we keep denying it the less time we will have to react to it and the more devastating the effects of global warming will be on us all. people like you who keep denying are handicapping our entire human race as well as the planet.

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It's really a hoax and CAN be stopped, seeing as it doesnt exist. I'll bet you kooks believe that the world will end in 2012 too, right? ill get back to you w/an essay im writing on Global Warming's...fakeness...

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Wow, at first I was quite surprised to see the heated argument between people of different opinions, but then I was not so surprised. Humans (well, predominately male humans - yes I am a woman) have been killing each other over differences in beliefs and opinions since before recorded history. Of course, thousands of years ago they had legitimate reasons to fight each other for resources to ensure their own survival. In some cases, this is the same today, and in other cases people blow up hospitals and kill doctors for performing abortions. Okay, so what the heck does any of this have to do with global warming?? Well I had been a believer in global warming and man's contribution to it since I first began learning about it as a teenager in the late 90s. With the growing body of research and evidence I felt it was undeniable that we were directly screwing our planet (and the only one we've got right now) and it angered me that the political and economic leaders were not making significant changes to reduce these affects. It is unfortunate that in light of the emails obtained last year the legitimacy of evidence released by scientists is called into question. However, there is one major piece of evidence that I just don't understand how global warming skeptics can deny... melting glaciers. While this article here discusses the ice in Antartica, it completely ignores whats happening to glaciers across the globe. If you want to deny that temps are not increasing, how do you account for this melting? Maybe there are lava flows under all these glaciers that have moved closer to the surface - but it seems the most logical explanation for this is that air temps have been increasing. Now as some have already stated here, Earth goes through natural cycles of warming and cooling, so perhaps this is a natural process that we can do nothing to change and should stop worrying about. But will anyone here deny that we are not pumping tons of CO2, Methane, and other gases into our atmosphere every day? Yes, volcanoes and fires and even farting cows and other animals have been doing this for millions of years. But I don't understand why skeptics are so h*ll bent on denying man's influence in global warming. If the science behind the greenhouse gas effects IS wrong, do you really want to argue that all this stuff is GOOD for the planet? Do you really want to wait and find out whether you are right or wrong, because if you are wrong, by the time it is so clearly evident that there is no longer a way to deny it, it will probably be too late to reverse the effects. It may be costly to invest in clean air technology, but it seems to be a worthy investment for the health of our planet should all this gunk we're putting in the air does turn out to be bad. We may not be able to stop the volcanoes, but we do have the power to change our own habits.
For the last comment - I'd really be interested in this essay on global warming's "fakeness", but I don't suggest using that word in your essay or no one will take you seriously. Also - I don't believe the world WILL end in 2012, but I also can't say that the world won't experience significant disasters at that time either. The WORLD will not end, be/c scientists would know by now if an asteroid the size of Asia was headed for us that would actually destroy the planet, but humanity could be in for some hard hits. Hopefully serious solar storms will not knock out our power grids, but they is no way to predict what will happen. Only watch and wait. Hopefully the scientists at NOAA who monitor these things will see them coming in time to take necessary steps to avoid a power disaster.
Okay, so I'm sure I'll get reemed by people on here that half of what I said does not pertain to global warming, but GET OVER IT! I just wish people would stop fighting about stuff and spend their time doing productive good for the world and humanity.
I'm off to get some recycled oil from Taco Bell for me biodiesal car, take a sail boat to Africa to educate people on over population, provide clean water and food for pverty stricken nations, save the whales, oh, and convince the US Government and all terrorist organizations to stop blowing each other up. I'm sure there is more to do - but like most people all I'm really going to do is go home and fret about how messed up the world is and how greedy and useless most humans, like myself, really are, but make no effort to change them aside from blogging about it on sites like this!

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Just for the record, I am a war vet. I served in the US Army during the first gulf war. The issue of why we were there, is (or was) hotly debated. The soldier does not get to chose in which war he (or she) will fight in. One simply signs up out of patriotic duty to defend the nation and its people. I did some killing, and its not the highlight of my life. I have no love of violence, and yet I will use violence to protect the inoccent. People say if you are being mugged or raped, to yell FIRE! The logic being that no-one will come to your aid if some danger is percived to themselves. I would come to your aid in any case. Thats just a decison I have made to live in that manner. Lets not paint the solders as war mongers. If you disagree with the politics of certian administrations, go ahead. Being a solder is not about testosterone. Its about love for country, love for the people.

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If the ice coverage is increasing in Antartica and presumably decreasing in the Arctic, does that then mean Earth's rotation is precessing like a spinning top at a slight tilt, and that there has been a gradual change in the angle of tilt, thus changing the angle at which the Earth faces the Sun? If this is the case does movement of the magnetic pole over time track this, due to changes in motion within the Earth's core?

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This is funny to me, because I'm currently getting a masters in environmental science and general science education, so some of the questions just asked above were recently covered in a few of my classes, particularly meteorology. Here's what I can say. There is a change in tilt, but only over very long periods of time,
"The tilt of the Earth's spin axis varies from 22.1 degrees to 24.5 degrees and then back to 22.1 degrees over a period of about 41,000 years, the consequence of long-period changes in orientation of Earth's orbital plane with respect to its spin axis."
So it would be doubtful we would see the effects of a change in tilt in our lifetime, given the large period of time it takes for tilt to change.
That said, if the tilt were changing, Antarctica would not be at a different angle towards the sun than the Arctic because of the revolution of the earth around the sun. This can be simply demonstrated by examining the summer and winter Solstices, where in winter, at about December 21st (my birthday), the Sun's rays are most directly over the Tropic of Capricorn. This is due to the tilt we described earlier. The tilt of the earth is currently at 23 degrees and 27 minutes. As the earth moves to the other side of the sun for summer (ironically, its farthest point from the sun) on June 21st, the tilt has not changed, just the location at which the suns rays most directly hit, now at the Tropic of Cancer.

Furthermore, I would like to comment on the effects of climate change on a smaller scale. Volcanoes, like Mount Pinatubo in the Phillipines and many others, have caused climate change on a global scale. This is of course a natural process, but consider the effects of sending just that amount of gas into the atmosphere that wasn't there before. It's a lot, but now consider burning all the carbon deposits and fossils, ever, into the atmosphere over a long period of time. Consider sending half that amount. All volcanoes send about 130 million tones of CO2 into the air each year. So add all the active volcano tops together to create a diameter of about maybe a mile. Humans add 100 times more than that, so imagine a volcano with a diameter of 100 miles erupting each year.To consider the proven climate change caused by Mount Pinatubo and other volcanoes over time, yet ignore these greenhouse gases, even after the exercise of imagining they come from just one source on the earth, is a bit of a silly thing to get angry and "patriotic" over. Global warming doesn't have to be a party-affiliated issue. I believe in it unquestionably, don't consider myself liberal, nor do my friends, and can consider liberals and conservatives alike patriots. Let's cut the "fat cats" from washington out from under us and believe what we see as proven truth based on REPRODUCIBLE facts. Go America!

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All one needs to do is go to wikipedia and type in global warming (you can also find global warming controversy), and if you think wiki is biased then you're just wrong. Each of you has different facts and stats to back up your argument, but for all of us who are laymans let's break it down and ask yourself which scenario sounds worse to you?

1. The world as we know it is destroyed. The human race is completely eradicated.

or...

2. We live in a world much like our own today except we are...
- More environmentally conscious (no one drives hummers)
- We lose our addiction to fossil fuels (We all drive slow ugly hybrids)
- We have a "green economy" (whatever implications you want to put with that)
- and lastly, Al Gore is filthy stinking rich because he profited on our fears and global warming really was a hoax.

Well, gee-darnit! We sure got hosed!! I don't think I can live in a world where Al Gore made money by tricking everyone to care about their planet and making me use sustainable resources; not to mention that I don't have to depend on the always politically-stable middle east to support my way of life!

Jesus Christ, people. Even if Al Gore is completely full of it, I can't think of a more deserving way for a man to make tons of money than by almost singlehandedly raising awareness to help improve the quality of life on our planet, can you? Do athletes, movie stars, or oil tycoons deserve the enormous paychecks they receive? How about the recently bailed out CEOs of Lehman Bros, or Bear Stearns? How about a little credit for the guy? You can still hate him for whatever reason (lack of personality, dumb voice), but at least accept that he's picking a worthwhile cause to champion/profit from.

Personally, I hope something drastic is done about it politically whether you deniers like it or not, and I believe if it weren't for conservative talk show hosts who for some reason take the side of ridiculousness on this issue, this site wouldn't exist and we would be closer to actually doing something. One last thing taken from wikipedia:

-The controversy is significantly more pronounced in the popular media than in the scientific literature, where there is a consensus that recent global warming is mostly attributable to human activity. (http://www.eci.ox.ac.uk/publications/downloads/boykoff04-gec.pdf)

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Lots of babble from the left but no coherent reply yet to three points:

1) if global warming is caused by man's behavior, why has the pattern repeatedly occurred long before these behaviors?

2) if the science is so rock solid, why did the scientist (in England) lie, suppress, and cover up?

3) why did many in the same media and scientific community predict a coming ice age 30 years ago?

Answer: libs have no answer. This is about funding scientists and transfer of wealth.

Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979cmquietman |04 Apr : 23:47
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I went to NSIDC web site and found nothing to confirm this. If anyone finds the data this article came from please post a link, I would love to be able to quote this from the source.

Antarctic Sea Ice for November 2009 Higher Than 1979Higuy67 |28 Apr : 09:16
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Thank you for daring to stand out against this evil hoax. I know you've gotten a lot of rude comments from some idots who won't give in to the fact that global does not exist, keep opening these people's eyes to the truth that those people are getting scammed. Maybe one day they will wake up to the truth...

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