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» Emails Refute James Cameron's Reason for Cancelling Global Warming Debate
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» Media Use Crazy Weather to Hype Global Warming, Despite Admissions Weather Isn't Climate
» Andrea Mitchell: I Thought Al Gore Settled the Global Warming Issue
» For Climate Change Piece, ABC's Dan Harris Skips Agenda of Global Warming Scientist
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» New Paper “African Dust Over The Northern Tropical Atlantic: 1955–2008″ By Amato T. Evan and Sujoy Mukhopadhyay (2010)
» Another Paper That Documents The Complexity Of The Climate System – Vautard Et Al 2009
» Release Of The Report “Climate Change Assessments, Review of the Processes & Procedures of the IPCC”
» New Paper On Climate Variability and Trends In The Southwest USA By McCabe Et Al 2010
» Article In Nature “Cold Empties Bolivian Rivers Of Fish” By Anna Petherick
» A Western Governer’s Association Meeting – “Drought, Water, and Climate: Using Today’s Information To Design Tomorrow’s Services”
» Another Human And Natural Climate Forcing – Pyrocumulonimbus Storms
» Comments On The Economist Article “Green View: Could Temperature Be Less Intemperate?”
» New Paper On The Role Of The Long Range Transport Of Mineral Dust And Other Aerosols By Ben-Ami Et Al 2010
» Futher Information On Tree Ring Proxy Data – A Research Paper García-Suárez Et Al 2009
» ICOADS – Hawaii
» A First Look at ICOADS
» Tar and Z
» Back from Erice
» Kriging on a Geoid
» Replicating McShane and Wyner
» The First Difference Method
» Signal to Noise Ratio Estimates of Mann08 Temperature Proxy Data
» Erice 2010
» Briggs on McShane and Wyner
» Stop the Hysteria
» Latest Hurricane Earl Info
» Where are the solar power projects?
» Study: Ammonium as ice core proxy shows strong Medieval Warm Period in the tropics
» Open Sea Ice Thread
» New weather satellite passes shakedown, operational
» Personalized energy systems
» When warmistas attack
» Study: Goodbye to Spanish cold nights
» Global Energy Use in the 21st Century
» UN: Climate funds shouldn’t divert poverty aid
» The untold story of Waxman-Markey: USCAP and the green industrial complex
» Greenpeace wants Facebook center off coal fuel
» Report: Climate science panel needs change at top
» Mongolian Cabinet holds meeting in Gobi desert
» Numbers confirm it: Summer was a scorcher
» Obama’s EPA: School Marms R Us
» National Security Risks of Biofuel Mandates — Corrected*
» Is GOP Opposition to Cap-and-Trade Self-Contradictory?
» Al Gore: the Gift that Keeps on Giving
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The graph above shows the global temperature anomaly since 1979 (blue) and CO2 levels (fuchsia). There is no correlation between CO2 levels and temperatures. There are very strong historic correlations between solar activity and temperatures. Right now our sun is experiencing very mild solar activity, so expect cooler temperatures! The sun image shows current sun spot activity, it is a near real time NASA image (SOHO MDI Latest Image). Click here for an enlarged view from NASA.GOV.
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| » | On the Debunking of Spencer’s Feedback Ideas: An Appeal to Physical Scientists Everywhere
I am seeing increasing chatter about one or more papers that will (or already have) debunked my idea ... |
| » | The IPCC, Tipping Points, and Why Global Warming Must Remain Uncertain
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| » | The Persistence of Paradigms
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| » | Dump the IPCC Process, It Cannot Be Fixed
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| » | Daily Global Temperature Updates on the Discover Website: An Updated Tutorial
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| » | Still Cooling: Sea Surface Temperatures thru August 18, 2010
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| » | Interesting nuances in IPCC groups treatment of New Zealand temperature data
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WCK
02 Sep : 09:48
My last post was mainly meant for the Anon who asked what I did for a living but I have a few more facts to share. Our current grid loses roughly 30% of generated electricity in transmission. Off-grid solutions like Bloom Box eliminates that waste too. Americans hopefully will not be stupid enough to get involved in cap and trade as this would be the same as putting trillions of dollars in a big pile and lighting it on fire. James Hansen has already sent Barack Obama a letter outlining why cap and trade won't lower CO2 output and that is probably why Obama has provided such lackluster support for cap and trade. Analysis of the “large economy” Kyoto members demonstrated the ineffectiveness of cap and trade to reduce CO2. Only one country France with nuclear power has been effective in reducing CO2. Why would we want to send money overseas in some cap and trade scam when we could invest that money in free market solutions here, that will actually work to provide clean cheap energy?
WCK
02 Sep : 09:13
I am an inventor and entrepreneur. I am confident that free market capitalism and the American entrepreneurial spirit will provide cheap clean energy. Here's one example. Average US home = 11,040 kWh/year in electricity = 6.3 tons/year of CO2 for coal powered energy.
Bloom Industries is planning to introduce a 2x3x3 foot sized off-grid unit for about $3,000 that can generate the same 11,040 kWh/year while emitting less than .01 tons/year using NG or Bio gas. Companies like Bay, Google, Fed Ex and Walt Mart already have the $700,000/box commercial sized version. Bay will recoup the cost of their 5 Bloom Boxes within 20 years and factoring in depreciation will cut energy costs by $4 million in that 20 years. It is much more reliable and cheaper than solar or wind and it won't kill birds or need all the water that is needed to keep solar panels clean.
RGB
01 Sep : 23:50
Anon: Think about this one - really think - the Vikings mapped the north coast of Greenland.
stop smoking pot
01 Sep : 17:30
hmm more moister in the atmosphere? I'm in LA not much moister, I know people in Las Vegas,
even less moister
how bout them in Florida with the alleged "AGW" hurricane barreling down, gotta be more moister there.
Moister is like the wind it blows all over the place.
stop smoking pot
01 Sep : 17:23
Anon who says I got anything from ...the "drrreaded" Fox News?... "EVIL disseminators of more then one side of a story." (must be crushed) Perhaps they got it from me?WCK wow! Lee? Perhaps another
typical registered democrat? This should really take fire, and show just how crazy the environmental movement has become. All seems to go back to the "AGENDA"
of depopulating the earth I'm glad the cops started with him.
wck
01 Sep : 17:22
there not their
WCK
01 Sep : 17:20
i"...it is physics. warmer temperatures carry more moister."Anon - I'm glad you finally want to discuss the science. Are you saying that their is more moisture in the atmosphere?
WCK
01 Sep : 16:47
Police shoot and kill enviro alarmist. He wanted to save the planet.<Lee said at the time that he experienced an ‘‘awakening” when he watched former Vice President Al Gore’s environmental documentary ‘‘An Inconvenient Truth.”>

George Carlin had some insight about people who want to save the planet.

Anonymous
01 Sep : 16:31
so how does any of the prove AGW is a hoax? all it proves is that you are an idiot who believes everything he hears on fox news.
stop smoking pot
01 Sep : 15:07
When I was a kid I lived in New Orleans "early 60's" I survived bigger hurricanes then Katrina. Poor upkeep of the levees are not the cause of "AGW"Why don't you go help the flood victims... You do know that they are attacking non- Moslems for helping them so bring an M-16.
And after you man up and find your D&B's, do like the scarecrow and find a brain.
Again, you seem to think the weather events during your life time are some how worse than the past weather... Are you some how special or deserve special punishment?
Or do you think the weather is out to get you because of the sins of your ancestors?
Anonymous
01 Sep : 12:00
pot smoker. it is physics. warmer temperatures carry more moister. but it's o.k. I know you don't understand physics.
this year has been full of events. (aka evidence) 1 percent rise is a big deal.
man up?? tell that to the survivors of Katrina, or the survivors of the Pakistan floods.
why don't you man up and travel there to help the flood victims out?
maybe then you'd get a taste of the real world effects that are actually occurring. 1% is a huge deal when talking in terms of global events.
Hey wck. what studies have you done? what do you do for a living? how many blog posts by idiots to you read instead of reading scientific literature?
err on the good
31 Aug : 23:21
or thaw the Alaskan permafrost
err on the good
31 Aug : 23:16
and melt thousnds of years of snow from kilimanjaro
err on the good
31 Aug : 21:49
hurts eh? if i'm wrong the oil consumption goes down...if you are wrong you fund terrorist
must be impossible to admit
31 Aug : 21:31
your a parrot for saudi arabia
Anonymous
31 Aug : 21:25
readers notice the non denial of the fact fox news is backed by oil money
WCK
31 Aug : 19:12
"There is growing empirical evidence that warming temperatures cause more intense hurricanes, heavier rainfalls and flooding, increased conditions for wildfires and dangerous heat waves."Anon - again you claim that the above is " your point". This is now the third time I've caught you plagerizing the "Skeptical Science" blog. I consider that to be enough emperical evidence that you are a lying dirtbag troll presenting the words of others as your own.

I would appreciate it if you could please identify yourself as "plagerizing dirtbag troll" in the future? Thanks in advance.
stop smoking pot
31 Aug : 17:51
Anon: There's is no evidence that warmer world wide weather causes more intense hurricanes flooding or wild fires. we are talking on average less then 1 degree rise in 100 years.A 1 degree average lowering of world wide temperature could be said to have these effects. You act like the weather we have is some how worse then our great grandfathers, or something. Man up boy, you're a wimp.
Anonymous
31 Aug : 16:43
really? floods and droughts have been with us for all time? i did not know that. thank you for informing me of that. I wasn't smart enough to figure that out.Now, back to my point:
There is growing empirical evidence that warming temperatures cause more intense hurricanes, heavier rainfalls and flooding, increased conditions for wildfires and dangerous heat waves.
Anonymous
31 Aug : 16:39
so how about some balance to your record perth temperature:Global warming is a reality already with us. The 1990s were the warmest decade on record, about 0.6 of a degree celcius (°C) warmer than 100 years ago. Australia has warmed by 0.7 °C between 1910 – 1999, with most of this increase occurring since 1950 (CSIRO, 2001).
the average for all of Australia is higher, regardless of your one record cold temperature in Perth.
stop smoking pot
31 Aug : 13:05
Anon: The great lake temps are all suspect in accuracy at this point or do you only watch CNN? Floods and droughts have been with us for all time the propaganda used to say they are record anything is also suspect. Since accurate records are suspect for most of this because they've been gathering this stuff for only a few hundred years and the gathering process have evolved and changed during that time.Climactically or geologically who's to say what's what or who's on first?
WCK
31 Aug : 12:49
Oops I forgot about Perth weather. "Winter records set in Perth"
"A winter record was also set with the mean minimum temperature for the three months hitting 6.4C."

If you only focus on hot weather that can not be attributed to man you might be a catastrophic warming hypochondriac. lol
Anonymous
31 Aug : 12:32
and another thing fox news is a holding of a saudi oil magnate..hmm.could it be he bought his share of the news
Anonymous
31 Aug : 12:29
WCK your post admits the warming..cherry picking? Warming is good.
WCK
31 Aug : 11:51
Here
is Lake Superior as monitored by MSU. When you check/click on the map for temperatures you get this warning:NOTICE (8/11/2010) Due to degradation of a satellite sensor used by this mapping product, some images have exhibited extreme high and low surface temperatures. Please disregard these images as anomalies. Future images will not include data from the degraded satellite and images caused by the faulty satellite sensor will be/have been removed from the image archive.
I really can't refute data that is admittedly unreliable due to sensor degradation possibly for as long as ten years. I'm not a miracle worker.
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The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScD
In this paper, former NASA Senior Research Scientist Leonard Weinstein, ScD uses the melting of Arctic and Greenlandish ice to show how CO2 can not cause catastrophic melting in the future. In fact, both areas are well within the norm of natural variation.
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The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDwhat_harm_to_be_cautious? |28 May : 17:02 | |
| Guest Reply to this | I am not a scientist and my first glimmer of climate change came in 1998 when there was a heat wave. I lived in the tropics of Qld, Australia on an island surrounded by inshore coral reefs. Over the next two years many of these inshore reefs began to bleach and crumble. Once dead, algae and sea weed took hold. What was left (particularly in the shallower waters) was quickly suffocated by the sea weed and turned into muddy slush when the sea weed forest that fed off it ran out of fuel. I watched this happen with my own eyes (over two to 4 years) and decided to try and understand why it was happening. It was not confined to any one particular beach but all of them (even the ones with no continual human occupation). I learned back then about global warming and climate change. I want a future for my children. What harm is there to TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION NOW? What harm (apart from loss of income to multi-national corporations) will become of us if we move AWAY from polluting industries and INTO a clean energy future? Whether the climate change/global warming scientists are all full of hot air, or the ones who have been gathered here are big industry paid liars, there will be NO HARM to humanity if we clean up our act now. |
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The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDtarunkjuyal |02 Jun : 01:13 | |
| Guest Reply to this | great article |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDdrew_ |02 Jun : 10:02 | |
| Guest Reply to this | The harm in taking action now would be excise tax on CO2 (cap and trade) with would be passed to the consumer. (cig taxes is an example) The tax would cause your energy cost to quadruple. This would make it increasingly difficult for middle class families to survive without the government subsidizing. In addition the job loss seen from the energy sector would likely rival that of todays 16000 a day from other failing sectors. So yes there would be devistating harm be addressing the issue and would simply be an excellent way to tax middle class families without taxing middle class families. Very simply, go read 1984 by george orwell, and open your eyes to the oppressive government you pushed for! |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDken |07 Jun : 23:57 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Simply don't waste money on foolishness, which is what man-made global warming is. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDAnonymous |08 Jun : 20:53 | |
| Guest Reply to this | What everyone misses in all of this is that the planet is in no danger. The planet can take care of itself - has done for millions of years, and will do for countless more million years. What is in danger is our tiny insignificant little snapshot of time. The earth may or may not be warming (there is as much evidence proving this as there is proof that shares will be higher or lower tomorrow than they are today), but for man to claim responsibility for causing the earth to warm up? Get real.... Consider this: if the earth were actually cooling, even heading towards another ice age, would man be able to warm it up, to turn back the ice? I don't think so. The only inconvenient truth is that some people are getting very rich from the GW bandwagon. The smart thing is to make sensible, sustainable decisions. Our resources are limited and if we want to maintain our lifestyles, and those of our children, then we have to switch to renewable options. it makes no difference if the planet is warming or not. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDbig_man |16 Jun : 16:08 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Wake! up! you have been blindsided!! by generic science! GLOBAL WARMING = MONEY! MONEY!= GREED!!=LIES!! DAH? |
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The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDanonymous |19 Jun : 14:54 | |
| Guest Reply to this | where was this article origionally published? |
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The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDobviously |22 Jun : 05:00 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Since the climate is cyclical, then at some point it should get back to 100 [degrees] C, like it was before abiogenesis occurred. We would all be dead if that happened, by the way. Oh, and also, before abiogenesis, there were no plants to absorb all the CO2. Then, within a short time, geologically speaking (quite possibly less than 1000 years) various complex molecules (chemicals) were turned to ozone, stopping ultraviolet light and allowing more complex forms of life to grow, then releasing oxygen into the air via photosynthesis, along with TAKING THE CO2 OUT. Although at the very start, the main source of energy would probably have been chemical energy (ie said 'molecules'). Then, BANG. After most ofthe CO2 was gone, we had temperatures that were a lot warmer then the current temperature, due to more carbon being in the carbon cycle. Then the floods/etc that actually made fossil fuels occurs, and the carbon in the form of trees/dinosaurs/anything else organic that was 'buried' is removed from the carbon cycle. So the temperature goes down even further. Then, after that, after a couple of million years, humans have evolved, and we start digging it up, releasing that carbon back into the carbon cycle. Now we're going to watch the temperatures go up. By the way, I forget the exact percentage, but the carbon in our atmosphere is something like 0.3% - pretty far gone from >50%, like it would be if there weren't any plants/other forms of life. Also, cutting down half our rainforests doesn't hel either. |
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The reason I do not agree with The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDAnonymous |24 Jun : 16:53 | |
| Guest Reply to this | It's a fact that ice sheet does reflect most of the solar radiation (short wavelength such as UV radiation) back into the atmosphere. The reradiated radiation is trapped inside the atmosphere. This is when greenhouse effect, a effect that no one would or should argue or doubt about, kick in. The mathematical equation list above is simple and do not demonstrate the effect of synergistic reaction. The assumption based is seemingly different from those of global warming theory. More than offen, assumption is based different on different model. But how can anyone denie the shrinking of the ice-sheet shown by the solid satelite photo region of the polar and greenland icesheet. The thermograph of the core temperature change over the past few decades? The 1000ppm CO2 level is way before human time scale. The truth is the changing of temperature is so rapid in the past century even when you are comparing it to the events before. In case you don't know, which you probably don't. The majority of opponent of global climate change are the non renewable energy producer and consumer. Former president George Bush is in fact less known for his environmental nonfriendly and gobal warming non-supporting policy. During his adminstration, US never join the major world effort for fighting global warming. For the industries to fight the global warming, they have to invest trillions and trillions of money into their system. As an alternative, they employ 'scientists' to look for objective evident on the issue. Just like picking a few words out of a book to form whatever sentance you like. The government funded, published or even related research are full of words like possibilities, likely because of its caution natur. By saying 5 %, citizens would more likely to thing of 'very less likely' instead of its actuate meaning 'Very likely' since it's supposed to happen 5 times in every 100 times (a million times daily?). Big money? From who? To who? Researchers? Very least likely. It's much difficult to obtain 'enough' funding from government than from the industries, in an exchange that they can filter and alter the way it present. Little of the big money would actuallty go into the pocket of researcher, especially those of independent research. Most of the people saw those well known, rich research and ignore tons and tons of dedicate, true intelligent researcher that got so little or nothing. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDelrond11 |26 Jun : 14:48 | |
| Guest Reply to this | There are some great points here about being environmentally responsible. Also, in developing cleaner forms of energy. Those are definitely goals we should be setting for the future of this world. However, we should not be doing it based on the arguments of the fear mongers who purport man-made climate change. Their calls for immediate action will only bankrupt governments and put a huge financial burden on the people of this world. We need to move forward with being more sensitive to our environment but not in a knee jerk fashion. These environmental alarmist like Al Gore want immediate action because they do have a huge financial stake in all this. It is time we silence them and their rhetoric and move on in a reasonable fashion towards being more environmental responsible. |
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The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDC02_and_the_"blanket_effect" |27 Jun : 04:31 | |
| Guest Reply to this | C02 makes up such a small part of our atmosphere, it is impossible that it could cause climate change. There would have to be an actual change in atmospheric pressure in order to make a "heavier blanket" around the earth to trap heat. I don't think the blanket is getting heavier. No one is claiming that the atmospheric pressure is rising, which would indicate a change in mass. You kool-aid drinkers have all been duped! |
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The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDLeonard_Weinstein |29 Jun : 07:12 | |
| Guest Reply to this | To Anonymous, Please read the following two URL's and tell me how you can refute them. Don't use the claim of authority and consensus as proving anything. There are about as many real scientists that dispute the position of AGW (not GW) than agree, but many have not published on the topic because no one publishes a non problem. It was the large number of people claiming a problem that made them come out with responses. Also using misinformation by a few persons (common on both sides of the issue) does not disqualify the truth. (Limitations on AGW) (Disproving AGW Problem) |
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The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDron
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Registered: 14 Jun : 21:02 Reply to this | You forgot Galileo, who was excommunicated for his scientific views, and vilified, made a persona non grata. Charles Darwin, to received, skepticism. FitzGerald and Lorentz were phycisists, with degrees and everything, who believed in an aether. Einstein came along and said there was no aether, based on the Michelson-Morley experiment but he used their math, anyway. Untie that knot. And the thousands of scientists who think are in support of AGW are the listed authors and reviewers of the IPCC. If you pay attention to the words of John Cristy, original lead author of the IPCC, not only are most of the authors not directly involved in climatology, but many have withdrawn their support and have to fight the IPCC and threaten legal action to get their names taken off the "consensus." |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDAnonymous |15 Jul : 20:29 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Hello all. Well I'm no ph.D. Chemistry, I'm just a regular middle class working stiff. I don't pretend to know all the ways of the world. There may well be global warming. I just want someone to prove it before forcing me to hand over my hard earned money in the form of massive energy rate hikes (cap and trade). I honestly don't understand how you can have such an excellent education and still be so willing to hand over your money while the guy telling you to drink the cool-aid lives in an energy gulping mansion. The argument that always stands out in my less than Ph.D. educated mind is how do climate trends from the last hundred years prove squat when the earth is millions of years old? I guess the point i'm trying to make is how difficult it is to get people on board the global warming train with such massive holes in the argument. And by the way, when a person claims to have personally witnessed the effects of global warming, they generally get the eye roll from anyone with a decent sense of humor. Just giving you the heads up in case anyone was planning on using that in public I have to agree that global warming is easily understood when you follow the money.H.S. Diploma Ventura High School '98 |
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The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDarber |22 Jul : 03:45 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Back in 1919 started a extraordinary winter warming. The Arctic got warmer over two decades until app. 1940. This can be establish with precision and certainty (see Part C at: ) . The warming period from 1919-1939 was followed by a cooling for more than three decades. Despite this facts the IPCC Assessment 2007 says: Arctic temperatures have high decadal variability, and a warm period was also observed from 1925 to 1945. (Ref: ) Instead to learn from this warming period to understand the current situation thus notions are not correct and useless. Although the warming had been already discussed in the 1930s, by Scherhag, Brooks et al (http://www.arctic-warming.com/how-was-the-warming-discussed-in-the-1930s.php ) recent scientific papers have little more to say as, for example : “Natural variability is the most likely cause” (Lennart Bengtsson, Vladimir A. Semenov, Ola M. Johannessen, The Early Twentieth-Century Warming in the Arctic—A Possible Mechanism, Journal of Climate, October 2004, page 4045-4057) (see: op.cit.). Recent papers pay little attention to the fact that the warming could be observed only during the winter season when any direct influence of the sun was inexistent or low. The pay little, if any attention to the sea ice conditions. By a thorough analysis of all prevailing circumstances it is possible to identify that the conditions off the west coast of Spitsbergen has been the location that generated and sustained the Arctic warming from 1919 to 1939, due to conditions of the West Spitsbergen Current, which brings warm and saline Atlantic Water to the Arctic Ocean. (see Ch.7 at: ). Calling nowadays the early warming (1919-1939) in the Arctic as: “one of the most puzzling climate anomalies of the 20 th century”[7], (Bengtsson, op.cit) is of little help. It is possible to do better. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDAnonymous |24 Jul : 05:12 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Just stating what I heard... The Earth is in fact going through a natural cycle. Where I live in Alaska, there has be proof found that it used to be tropical.However, it's been reported that CO2 is speeding up the natural cycle. So even if we went all green, the earth would be warming anyway. I don't know what is causing it and i don't claim any side, but I do know our snow level has dropped, and tropical fish have been found in our waters. Just food for thought. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDcoxanator |27 Jul : 08:13 | |
| Guest Reply to this | when the heads of the g8 state that they have agreeded to not let the earth temperture rise more than 3 degrees I then realized it was a scam. To think that man can influence the climate is the most ridiculous thing i ever heard. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDstudent |28 Jul : 14:52 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Our reliance on fossil fuels will have to end regardless of their supposed connection to the idea of "global warming." They're going to run out eventually, so it would be intelligent to master certain alternatives. Everyone can agree that pollution is something we should work against, so why fight about what it does or doesn't cause? It's truly egotistical to think that the human race is solely responsible for something on this large a scale. Since when did the sun become perfect? Since when did gases that "trap" sunlight cease to reflect it? I admit that I'm no scientist, but anyone can see that there's a lot of time and energy devoted to this mysterious issue when there are other more prevalent issues to be explored. We might as well argue about when a large meteor will strike our planet, or when Yellowstone will erupt. I think that natural cataclysmic events will change our climate much more drastically than we ever could. It's sad to see so many intelligent people overlook real issues that need to be solved right now instead of over the next few centuries. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDR-Mib |02 Aug : 17:13 | |
| Guest Reply to this | OK, now for some real quotes and sites to visit and be awakened. Jacques Chirac, EU environment minister, said back in 2000 : "Cap and trade is the first component of an authentic global governance". He also admitted that the global version of cap and trade is: "About the economy and leveling the playing field for big businesses worldwide". "Warming fears are the worst scientific scandal in history...When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists." - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist The EPA breaks the law getting "the administration ordered results" into report to Congress and Senate on Cap and Trade bill. ![]() Rahmstorf Rejects IPCC Procedure: seeming unawareness of what the smoothing did; incorrect disclosure; unattractive properties of the triangular filter; the enhancement of "successful" prediction; opportunistic policy changes. ![]() Source of fishy odor confirmed: Rahmstorf did change smoothing: ![]() So much for the Science used behind the reports from the IPCC, entrepreneurs Al Gore and friends...... Maybe if Obama used the smoothing filter from Rahmstorf and applied to an economic forecast there might be a big up tick in the economy coming, somewhere down the road? |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDdseutter |09 Aug : 11:09 | |
| Guest Reply to this | One question, what was the average temperature of the Earth in the 1200's? Another question Why were they talking about using the Global Warming issue to bring about Global Goverment in the early 90's. Question #3 Why do 35,000 scientists dispute the global warming issue? Question #4, Why are top scientists sometimes the head of their departments being removed from their jobs when they dispute the global warming issue? Do the research and you may find that there is more to the global warming issue than you know. Do not be a lemming. Try looking at the actual global temperatures around the world for the last ten years and not some figures that someone has hyped. Isn't it interesting that the temperatures have been going down sense 98. Please try to do your own research and try to stop believing all the hype. From one who has been following this issue from the early 90's |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDMk |18 Aug : 21:53 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Me as well, I am NO scientist, but from common sense and knowing history and just looking at life in general...it goes through phases. This "hot topic" of Global Warming is just absurd. I do believe we can better our ways in life and not waste so much, but I do not see how any of this is partially our fault. The sun goes through it's phases just as the earth goes thru its phases. I do know the Sun controls everything in our Universe and if the Sun is going through its changes, so will the Earth in response for survival. So, how is, for example, this "Cash for Clunkers" really going to improve our Earth and this "Global Warming"? It's more of a waste in my eyes. Some of us humans think we can control the Earth, when we can't. What we should do, is listen to our earth and go along with it. How is that so hard and why should that even cost us? Thanks for listening. Again, I am no expert, I just speak from what is common sense to me and with nature. |
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The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDsan_quintin |20 Aug : 09:25 | |
| Guest Reply to this | There are some pretyy stupid views here. The sceptic view goes like this: "I don't understand climate change, but dealing with it might affect my lifestyle. So, therefore, climate change must be a hoax". Pretty illogical to me. makes some of you sound like flat-earthers. Guess what....climate change is happening, most of it is caused by humans, and the effects are likely to be severe. If you disagree then do some science and show that the scientists are wrong. None of you will....and the sceptics haven't ever achieved this. By the way, I have a PhD in a climate science, and am a professor at a leading university. And, finally, I don't make money out of it! If climate change wasn't happening/caused by humans I would still have tenure! |
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The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDAnonymous |20 Aug : 16:44 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Maybe someone can help me out with something: Frederick Seitz and William Nuremberg were hired in 1984 by the George C. Marshall Institute to discredit the link between carbon dioxide and global warming using many of the arguments we use today (there's so little of it in the atmosphere that it can't possibly have that much of an affect; temperature decreased during post world war economic boom; environmental change should be subject to economic mechanisms), yet the same men were used by RJ Reynolds to discredit the link between tobacco use and cancer. Now I know what you're thinking: "SO WHAT?! This doesn't mean they were wrong." You can't come to a reasonable conclusion simply by refusing someone else's claim, and yet that is all I see coming from people who don't believe in global warming. I don't think we are in any imminent threat from global warming, but how can you refuse to acknowledge that things are getting worse? Besides, I thought we were past the point of aurguing IF it exists and moved on to if the causes are man-made? With that said, Please stop with the half-assed metaphors like "drinking the cool aid" to validate your claims. From a PR stand point, all they do is take away from a reasonable argument. I wouldn't call anyone in here stupid. I just think they have their priorities and are keener to information that's validating. Otherwise, these people would be like chickens with their heads cut off. Oh crap! broke my own rule. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDAnonymous |07 Sep : 13:48 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Why so many uses of the word "about" - "The maximum Solar insolation from this (due to the angle and atmospheric absorption) is about 400 W/m2. The high reflectivity of clean snow (always present on ice) results in only about 40 W/m2 being absorbed into the ice." "but even at the maximum summer level, absorbs only about 350 W/m2 near the pole. The water emissivity is slightly higher than ice, and radiates about 300 W/m2." to highlight four. If this is a scientific paper why not use the recoded figures with referenced sources instead of "about"? This would never have pased under peer review and places question marks over the robustness of your argument |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDAnonymous |11 Sep : 10:18 | |
| Guest Reply to this | I agree that "global warming" is in fact an over-hyped, media enhanced public scare tactic, with perhaps some underlying political agendas. I do, however, believe that global climate change is occuring and that it is a natural cycle that has been substantiated by evidence from ice and sediment core data (as well as tree rings). An anthropogenic component is certainly a plausible theory given the body of evidence put forth from the scientific community. Yes, I realize that many of you believe that said scientists are fear-mongering puppets dancing to the tune of substantial funding opportunities. I can verify that this belief is not entirely true as I have had the opportunity to work with said "evil scientists". Malcolm Hughes, a researcher at the University of Arizona's Tree Ring Laboratory was among the original scientists to produce the fabled/infamous hockey stick image. His work, as well as those of his colleges, was so controversial at the time that a government panel was created to examine his claims. He was called on to defend his data, and while he did admit (and explained clearly in his paper) that there were limitations to his study, the image held up to peer review, the panel, and even subsequent research. In my opinion, and yes it is an opinion, the government would not fund research that could ultimately cost them (and not to mention the automotive and oil companies) MORE money. I realize most people don't tend to trust ideas and theories that are constantly changing, but that's what science is folks. It's the continual search for a better understanding of the world, which is a highly complex system that no single man can fully grasp. I agree that the Earth will live on no matter what we do. The issue at stake is not only the quality of our own lives (the lives of our species), but what WE do also affects processes throughout the world. In essence, we aren't the only species affected by our actions. Life is a cycle, and what we put into that cycle will come out elsewhere. With knowledge comes responsibility. Maybe it is our responsibility to use our knowledge to positively contribute to our world, our environment. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDAnonymous |15 Oct : 10:46 | |
| Guest Reply to this | hopefully, soon people will realize that global warming, climate change, national health care and whatever agenda the current 'leaders' are pushing is not to benefit the people of the world. nor, do i believe that the world leaders care about its populous. after money, the next drug of choice for ego maniacs is power. power and control is the most intoxicating high i know of. lucifer tried to overthrow God in Heaven to acquire power. it's that sick and twisted. the overwhelming majority of the people have been lulled and convinced that global warming/climate change exists because we hear it enough everywhere. it is reinforced constantly because it is a discussion topic and all forms of media (especially those that profit from it) love this. well, the world leaders love it even more. we are believing our own lies to be enslaved by false beliefs. we, as people, are generally good. most of us dont want to hurt and kill. most of us want to feel special and unique in the world. we all want to contribute and stand out as special...even if it is just slightly. we, as humans, inherently also want control. with control comes stability. and with stability comes comfort. and with comfort, comes peace of mind. thus, what better way to create discomfort than by upsetting the things that disturb our stability? the beauty of global warming/climate change is that it claims to be 'man made'. because it is man made, we, the people, can 'control' it. WE can make a difference. each and every one of us. we can each contribute and be special. and by doing so, we the humans, have yet created another tier system of humanity. those who believe and defend global warming will 'judge' those who do not do as much as them. they will 'fight' those who do not believe like they do. why? to feel superior and unique. global warming/climate control believers (along with others who believe that globalization of all economies) are helping power crazy politicians inadvertently forward their agenda. being a globalist has never been so easy. they figured that using scared, weak and insignificant people to do their work for them is much more effective, efficient with far more penetrating results. all this would not be possible with the creation and streamlining of the internet. everyone connected, including me, now have a voice. nothing makes a weak/insecure nobody feel more empowered and motivated than by others reading what 'they' wrote and having people respond to it with positive or negative statements. thus, all this is not about repairing global warming/climate change or bettering humanity. initially, it is a way of acquiring wealth, immense wealth, from people via guilt and shame. wealth is necessary for power to be effective. power is inherently tied to wealth. power needs wealth to be successful. once wealth and power is locked in place, control takes its rightful place. control of everything would be the ultimate high. just ask lucifer. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDnigel |04 Nov : 16:27 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Is this guy mentally deficient or simply deceptive? Do tell. He claims His temperature / time series fom 1880 to present shows the early part of the 20th century as warmer than currently. His graph appears to be for the USA only, so is not global, so means nothing. I wont be reading any more of his nonsensework and only an idiot would. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDsiteyourfacts |10 Nov : 11:41 | |
| Guest Reply to this | In relation to the above article greenland was named greenland when discovered by the vikings so that people would move there and has nothing to do with the fact that it was once green, because it wasn't. Below greenlands ice is rock, so even if it did melt it wouldn't be green, it would look much like northern Canada. In refrence to the scientific part of the above article I believe that any person planning on reading this article and believing every word should also read articles from other people(http://www.countercurrents.org/burbeck100108.htm). Do not read one article and take it bas the whole truth. This makes you no better than the global warming "sheep" that are so commonly criticized on this site. PS this site seams to have a lot of articles by Leonard Weinstein and none by any of the other scientists who supposedly deny global warming, if some of there articles could be added it would be greatly appreciated. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDSam |13 Nov : 01:18 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Just a note: A simple click on the "short Bio" of this "ScD" will raise a red flag. I'm sure this man is smart, because he has a ScD in Endineering. But unfortunately, engineering is not Climatology. I don't believe this is his field... Look at what the Climatologists say, all of you who claim you know exactly what's going on. Why are you wasting your time reading an essay on climate change from an engineer? you wouldn't go to a psychologist for advice on your car's engine. You would go to a mechanic. Sure he has a doctorate or whatever, but he has no authority to speak on global warming. Actually, I've seen less tpyos and mechanical errors in high school essays. Was this essay even published in any legitimate scientific journal? or at all? |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDNathan |24 Nov : 16:58 | |
| Guest Reply to this | I have my own personal opinion. Global warming this, global warming that - we aren't all going to die if the global temperature goes up by 1 degree. Yeah, CO2 may be bad for our lungs and it may kill us, but considering that our air is much cleaner than 50 years ago (the great london smog that happened nearly every day) - so technically, why is our temperatures still going up? Has nobody yet considered the fact the only heat source in our solar system, is the sun? When the sun is quite active, does that not mean extra heat output? or does it mean "ah CO2's at it again".. Anybody considered the fact that glaciers and ice shelfs do not last for ever? You dont keep an ice cube cool outside the freezer. so ofcourse with stable ocean currents and steady heat flow - the ice will eventually melt. Oh and just another thing - so when i have a chilly night (like last december when the temps reached -13. This is england we are talking about here by the way... warm/rainy) where does the heat go, it ofcourse isnt trapped by this magical CO2 because it had dropped 10 degrees within the matter of 6-7 hours. Obviously it escaped into space, to be warmed again the next day by this thing called the sun. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDstewL |25 Nov : 13:50 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Im absolutely sick of having this man made global warming crap being pushed down my throat via all the media. Where is all the balanced reporting? easy! it doesnt exist. The earth has gone through numerous dramatic climatic changes over its lifespan and made the planet what it is today. Do people now think this has all stopped now and we will stay at 'room temp' for the next several billion years till the sun swallows us all up. I want to live in on a clean pollutant free planet and we should all do our part to make it so. Please stop trying to brainwash me with bs and lets all adapt to an everchanging climate. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDstewL |25 Nov : 13:55 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Im absolutely sick of having this man made global warming crap being pushed down my throat via all the media. Where is all the balanced reporting? easy! it doesnt exist. The earth has gone through numerous dramatic climatic changes over its lifespan and made the planet what it is today. Do people now think this has all stopped now and we will stay at 'room temp' for the next several billion years till the sun swallows us all up. I want to live in on a clean pollutant free planet and we should all do our part to make it so. Please stop trying to brainwash me with bs and lets all adapt to an everchanging climate. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDahole |10 Dec : 00:19 | |
| Guest Reply to this | ok to all the tree huggers qwit wasting my time writing in this post. go now and take your caR to the nearest recycle center then give your house to a homeless person. then kill yourself so you stop all the distruction you have caused this poor planet!! So I can then drive my SUV. and use all the carbon credits that you will save by doing so. oh ya please kill yoursell in a non poluting method!! Thank You Ahole |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDron
|13 Dec : 08:13 | |
Registered: 14 Jun : 21:02 Reply to this | Interesting replies since I last posted in this thread. Including some who claim graduate degrees. Though I would be interested in what college grants a graduate degree in "climatology" and how that curriculum plan was set.When I went to college in the 80's, and then, again, in the 90's, there was no "climatology" degree plan that I was aware of, at least in Texas. The usual fields concerned with climate is geology and paleontology. Essentially, the natural history sciences. Even so, their reconstructions are often by proxy, or temp as related to something else, such as clues based on some patterns of coincidence (not necessarily causality), like tree rings growing more often in warm times, as it is often in such times that trees proliferate and in the presence of more CO2, can grow more rings. Ice cores, which have air trapped from epochs past, that give us a true sampling of the earlier atmosphere, as well as general temperatures back then by how the ice was formed. I amazed how someone could have a doctorate in chemistry or even a BS in engineering and not know about basic physics, such as the law of entropy. High to low energy, hot to cold convection and the nature of transfer of momentum impacts, even on the sub-atomic level (think of Poincare's 3-body problem.) Then, again, when I went to school and college, I was taught by physicists and engineers, not politicians or priests of Gaia. The system of education could have changed and what may be taught now is a catechism (to borrow from the catholics), of sorts. To date, not one person, scientist or otherwise, has been able to empirically or experimentally that CO2 drives temperature. However, it can be proven empirically that CO2 rises after temperature, which is shown in the ice record. This does not imply causality, either, but it could be proven through basic science. Such as the outgassing of CO2 from the ocean during warmer times (Henry's Law, for you chemists) and the proliferation of lifeforms that exhale CO2 in animal form (for you mammologists) and plant form (for you botanists). Warmth brings life, not death. Most extinction events happen as a result of an ice age, either from natural cycles or cataclysmic events, such as meteor impacts throwing many particles into the air that reflect the sun's heat back out to space. Such as the eruption of a large volcano in 1815 that added to the little ice age and made 1816 the year without a summer. The highest temp recorded in America that year was in the first week of August in 1816 in the Carolinas. It got up to a sweltering 40 F. With colder temperatures, crops have less yield because of the shorter growing season. People starve from lack of food. Livestock die from lack of food, removing another food source from humans. Disease often flourishes in wet, cold climates. That's why your body runs a fever when you are sick. Because higher temps kill many bacteria. And the elevated temp increases antibody production to fight many viral strains. In its natural state, no gas warms anything and cannot stop convection. Period, paragraph, new book. Nor does any gas have the ability to control which direction it convects in. And, just as importantly, any object cannot release heat to something else at the same temperature or a higher temperature. Temp moves from hot to cold, always. So, a heated gas rises until it meets a cooler layer of air and transfers its heat to that. Pure and simple. AGW fails on these basic principles and the climategate is simply documented proof of lying and fudging for a political and monetary reason. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDron
|13 Dec : 08:20 | |
Registered: 14 Jun : 21:02 Reply to this | Plants exhale CO2 at night and during winter. Even the newest scare is that permafrost will melt, "releasing" methane and CO2 from the peat. Is that not a case of plants releasing "greenhouse" gases? In fact, plants put out at least 3 times the calculated output of Man. The ocean puts out 25 times as much as Man with a variation in output that is 5 times that of Man. And the total CO2 load, including Man's is .038 percent of total atmosphere. And Man is .03 percent of the CO2 load. Which makes Man's total contribution to the atmosphere .00113 percent. CO2 has a narrow frequency response that is no where near where the "warming" is and that response only happens in the first 20 ppm, which is the signature of "Nature." |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDDave_C-H |18 Mar : 19:51 | |
| Guest Reply to this | Hey, could we get a source for that graph showing temperatures for the last 9k years? I'm skeptical, and would like to see where it came from. Thanks! |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDIts_very_real. |16 Apr : 11:45 | |
| Guest Reply to this | The glaciers are melting from ocean currents you idiots not from the solar radiation and thermal heat. Im only in 8th grade and i know more about this topic then you. |
The Truth About Arctic and Greenland Ice - by Leonard Weinstein, ScDhurr_durr |17 May : 11:25 | |
| Guest Reply to this | derp to whever said that polar ice has been around for thousands of years.... go google Piri Reis retard. The 8th grar i right... Im doing a paper on global warming and i admit that i belived our CO2 emissions did cause greenhouse effects. Now, im more informed. Im no liberal, but im no fervent christan elephant who is more responsable for the [censored] going down than the dems. The Dems are too pussyto DO anything that can ofend someone,and the gov i too damn simple to use public work programs to fix our econ. Now, yes, climate change is real and yes it kills animals. o no. how sad. Turns out the polar bear is breading with the grizzly bear and can make fertile offspring, sepecies of animals die,but others come out of he ashes. (in thi case,its a 12ft tall human-blood loving monster, and yes, polar bears are one of the only animals that like eatin ppl.) Yes, climate change trending twods a warmer climate prolly isnt helped bythe co2, or toxins, but these are the least of our worries. Cheicals in our food, artifical hormones in our childrens happy meals and canerous flame retardents in thier blankets. WeDO need to "go green",but liberals and greedy scientists (who have a damn good reason to be greedy, have u seen thier pay? ><) are using "global warming" as a rallying point for going green. Going green is important, we can do it over the next 1-2 centuries and we'll be fine. All the cute animals will be fine. And all the cool coral will grow back (unless we continue to use shitty ocean oil transportation and containment measures). Now, i dont know if im liberalor conserv, but i think both sides can suck it because all they do is fight and get nothing done with all this political and Bureaucratic BS that makes reforming health care more important than making sure we all have jobs. Becausewhat ppl dont relizeis that ppl without jobs is not only bad for those ppl, but 10% joblessness is prolly gonna hurt the nations GDP. MAYBE. So, maybe we should just get our acts togther, agree that gloal warming might be a thing called climate change, and agree that toxic chemicals are TOXIC and shouldnt be dumped into anything or burned into our atmophere. We can all agree that iran wants nukes to kill our friends the zionists, we can all agree that were not gonna find osama beforehe dies of dysantary or what have you. (unless he is living amoung us or ome other rich country thts out to get him, which is a distinct possibility) We can all agree that animals (most) are good, sowe, as kings and rulers of the planet, hav a responability to not live agenst nature, but with it, likeeverything else does. Thank you XD |
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Increases in the amount of carbon dioxide and methane gas in the atmosphere have added to the warming trend. Your side does a lot of cherry picking of data to make it seem as though global warming is a hoax perpetrated by dishonest, funding hungry scientists and evil liberals who want to kill your puppy dogs. When Florida is completely under water in 500 years, historians will report that the human race did nothing about global warming because brain dead, zombie, conservative hate monkeys choked off the implementation of anti-global warming strategies. Keep up the good work. Oh by the way, cigarettes are good for you, [censored].










