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Quote to Consider
"The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological elite."

-- Dwight Eisenhower speech, 1961

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SFM
08 Feb : 22:34
Gee Finch I would like to reply to your post with a sarcastic diatribe but I cant figure out what the {censored} you are talking about. I would write to you but I dont know the address of the institution in which you are being held. Why dont you post your plan here for all to see or do you just like getting mail?


Finch1
08 Feb : 22:18
Bull [censored] we are half way into ICE AGE if we were not planting so much foliage we would be full blown into Ice Age what we should be worried about is Using up what is known to push us full blown into it the Methane Hydrate under the Crust Write to me i have a plan to supply fuel for aproximately 2000 years just on a 5% usage we can overt a catastrophy


congahands
08 Feb : 18:36

And by the way, I don't consider soft core porn author and Chairman of the IPCC, R.K. Pachauri, to be a scientist either. He is, at most, a minor league political hack.



congahands
08 Feb : 16:30
Anonymous, I don't believe that scientists are the enemy. But that means that I don't consider Michael Mann worthy of the term scientist. The East Anglia staff are in the same boat. Their e-mail admissions of their behavior disqualify them from that title no matter how many degrees they have earned.


Denny
08 Feb : 14:58
Anonymous, did you see my link??? Oh yes, decades of Bogus research that uses "scare tactic's...Now that's real Science..I think you should read this instead...but of course you probably won't.....



That is if you really care about the ClimateGate scenerio....


Denny
08 Feb : 14:50
Anonymous, blogs ARE a source of communication for article's "containing" Science information! You know that! It's just one of the Alarmist's excuse to cut this site down...Typical Alarmist!!!

How about getting to your fiasco that you believe in....Where's the Empirical Evidence that CO2 is casuing AGW??? This is the "point" to this matter...We know here that Temperature has gone up SLOWLY....That's not our issue...Our issue is what we here are complaining about....


Denny
08 Feb : 14:47
Anonymous, that depends on your stance! And NO we don't depend on Blogs but we do have these.......




Anonymous
08 Feb : 14:41
so, you guys continue to rely on blogs and political commentaries as the basis for your science.

when will you actually look at the decades of scientific research.

or are scientists still the enemy when discussing matters of science?


Denny
08 Feb : 14:14
I recommend going there and posting your comments on that site in the below article! Let them know how you feel!!! I just did!


Denny
08 Feb : 14:07
Gee, Obama starting up a "new" agency dedicated to addressing the impending doom of Global Warming....Where in the H@#* did he find monies for that!!!




stop smoking pot
08 Feb : 12:35
a fact said,
"I have chosen to stay in the city so that my acreage is that much more enjoyable."

So the less you're on your land the more you enjoy it??

Do the squirrels have the ability to form the concept of
enjoyable? The only way I could enjoy 100 acres would be to live on it and, I'll use
the evil word exploit, but if you hunt and feed the animal population you are in fact exploiting it's resources.


SFM
08 Feb : 12:02
To A Fact. I am also a hunter. It just seems that your definition of "managing" is to kill a few deer and squirrels. I just wonder how your 100 acres was able to survive for the millions of years before you bought it. I mean without those birdfeeders and whatever other food you provide for animals how could they have possibly have survived all this time. If you truly want it to remain wilderness, you dont introduce artificial food supplies, cabins, and solar panels. Look if you like killing animals and eating them, fine. But dont try to feed us some holier than thou, "I am the Lord of the wilderness" BS. Can you tell me EXACTLY how many deer and squirrels live on your 100 acres. If you cant , how do you know how many to kill, you know just to help them out. Looks like you apply the same theories to AGW as you do "wilderness"


Denny
08 Feb : 08:50
A fact...I thought you weren't coming back! Anyway, I'm happy to see that there is SOMETHING in common...Rural living is the ONLY way to live IMO...Wouldn't trade it for, well maybe one place..

This is what makes America great, at least for the moment, to have opinions, beliefs and being able to debate the Issues...Common Sense is of what value to People??? I often wonder of this statement...For me to see AGW, it's kind of obvious to me...But I have taken "a lot" of time to study this issue on both sides! Of course if you have a Scientific Interest it does help to see thru the retoric...Not saying you don't have it, A fact but it's obvious you don't know your Science...But that's OK also....we all have our weaknesses...as I do also....


Denny
08 Feb : 08:43
Well, a pretty good Super Bowl last night...You could tell that the Saints wanted it MORE than the Colts! They do have a good team...The player in that controversal call with the 2 point conversion was from Toledo Ohio...Happy to see another team make the Super Bowl list! This was the "best" scenario's from the regional to the Super Bowl I've seen in my time...All tight scored games! That's the way it should be....


A fact
08 Feb : 08:38
Denny I manage 100 acres of my own property.Yes i do hunt on the landI believe gun control is hitting what you aim at) I eat what I harvest and I believe in keeping my deer and squirrel populations to a level the environment can sustain them.I feed birds and the other wildlife on my property.In my life this place will continue to stay stay as it is wilderness.I have chosen to stay in the city so that my acreage is that much more enjoyable.I do have a small cabin on my property that I can stay in.I hope to put solar panels up this spring because I have no electric ran to my cabin.I also plant a new fruit tree every year,they usually end up with a blite but I will keep trying.Yes Denny I too am an American who just happens to not agree with you on certain issues.Ron I did not respond to you because you will believe what you believe and I will believe what I believe,I can see no more reason in discussing this matter with you.


Denny
08 Feb : 08:25
ron, that's one of my favorite's from Penn & Teller....here it is!




sean
08 Feb : 06:33
i agree


ron
07 Feb : 18:18
The episode also pointed out what happens when you appeal directly to emotion, such as sadness or fear. It also shows me that many people, in spite of their advanced education, do not have even a high schooler's understanding of science. And what is scary is that these people are old enough to vote on matters of science and the environmnent.


ron
07 Feb : 18:17
The h2o bit came from an episode of "Bull*&%$" by Penn and Teller. They went to a "green" fair and had people sign a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide. Every single person signed without questioning or blinking. It made the people "feel good" to do something about the environment. And these weren't "slovenly" construction workers, like myself. These were college-educated people, mostly, and every one thought they were up to speed on environmental "issues."



ron
07 Feb : 18:17
Alright, I will spill the beans about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide, since A Fact refused to respond to that. I have been dealing with dihydrogen fallout today. Intermittently. It causes to CO2 producers to continue putting out CO2. It also causes other things to put out oxygen. What is dihydrogen monoxide, some may ask? H2O. Water.



Denny
07 Feb : 15:03
SFM, Ok, thanks for answer about the Bluebirds..just was checking on your observation skills...


Denny
07 Feb : 15:02
SFM, what time is Kick-Off???


SFM
07 Feb : 15:00
Going to a Superbowl party in a little while. Should be a good game but the Saints are going to need a few breaks. Manning is tough. Win or lose Ill still get a bellyfull of good ol South Louisiana food. I might even drink a CARBONATED beverage just for spite. These are definitely bluebirds. Beautiful blue backs and an orangish breast. Weve had blue jays my whole life.


Denny
07 Feb : 14:48
ssp, SFM, WHO DAT??? Well, it's the Sarcatic Future Man...that's who he/she is...LOL...just covering the bases...:)


Denny
07 Feb : 14:44
SFM, people do confuse the Eastern Bluebird with BlueJays...Can you post a pic in the Latest Forum Posts of what you've seen??

This is the "first" time I've mentioned this portion of my Life...It's been definitely rewarding....Maybe soon I'll put together an article with my pics of what I have and done......


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The left believes they've caught one of their arch enemies in a gross factual mistake. Nationally syndicated columnist George Will recently wrote that global sea ice was at the exact same levels as it was in 1979. The left went bonkers believing him to be incorrect. Was he?

Discover Magazine's blog is one of those that went off on George Will accusing him of gross inaccuracy and saying that the Washington Post had poor fact checking “You Call That Fact-Checking?”.

Even the University of Illinois’ Arctic Climate Research Center got in to the fray saying this on their website:
We do not know where George Will is getting his information, but our data shows that on February 15, 1979, global sea ice area was 16.79 million sq. km and on February 15, 2009, global sea ice area was 15.45 million sq. km. Therefore, global sea ice levels are 1.34 million sq. km less in February 2009 than in February 1979. This decrease in sea ice area is roughly equal to the area of Texas, California, and Oklahoma combined.
So was George Will wrong? It turns out George Will was quoting a source that later corrected its data, not George's fault. Turns out for that particular day in February 1979 it did indeed have more ice than on that day in 2009. But is that a big deal?

We decided to take a look at the total month end numbers for January 1980 and January 2009. In case you've noticed a little slight of hand we did indeed change the year to one year later. Let it show that we did this to prove that it you can use this data just about any way you want (because frankly any global changes are not very dramatic), and if we had satellites up back in the 1930's we probably would have seen far less sea ice than what we're looking at now. So how does today compare to 1980?

1980 Southern Hemisphere =  4.7 million sq km
1980 Northern Hemisphere = 15.0 million sq km
Total = 19.7 million sq km

2009 Southern Hemisphere = 5.8 million sq km
2009 Northern Hemisphere = 14.1 million sq km
Total = 19.9 million sq km
January in the year 2009 showed 200,000 sq km more sea ice than 1980.


From the National Snow and Ice Data Center, University of Colorado



So what did George Will say?
“As global levels of sea ice declined last year, many experts said this was evidence of man-made global warming. Since September, however, the increase in sea ice has been the fastest change, either up or down, since 1979, when satellite record-keeping began. According to the University of Illinois' Arctic Climate Research Center, global sea ice levels now equal those of 1979.”
George Will's point remains, there is as much sea ice today as there was in 1979 1980. If there is “global” warming it certainly is hiding very well. Perhaps it has gone underground, either shy of all of the media attention, or nervous about being found out that it's nothing more than a fraud.




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George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agolibertybel |24 Feb : 18:40
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Do everyone a favor: drop the politically correct but nonsensical chicken-little global warming alarmism. It's a hoax, favored by news media for the dramatic headlines, by alleged scientists for the grants and publicity, and by politicians for the money and power. You should be in better company.

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |20 Mar : 15:32
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because what every scientist wants is publicity and fame, right?

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoTyler sokolov |01 Apr : 09:23
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If a "scientist" was going to get 25 million dollars to look at chicken scratched satistics and say "Why yes Global Warming is real, but I think we need another one billion dollars before we can do anything," is what you mean then yes they would and they do.

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |19 May : 08:50
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Doing things without regard as to how they effect others wishes is psychopathic. It's the behaviour of infants. Infants want to rule the universe but their universe is a warm place to sleep, a dry bottom, milk and its mother's love and that is certainly to be expected. This desire in adults is extremelt destructive to humanity. Psychopathology exists in anywhere from 3% to 5% of humanity. From that perspective, its easy to understand why history is so froth with human misery, wars and oppression.

Psychopaths have unbeatable techniques against those that don't realise they they are dealing with psychopaths on a daily basis.

Therefore we live in a psychopathic system where even noraml people do thinsg that are in essense psychopathic. So yes many will behave light flies to light and grab the grant money and lie and tell the masses that global warming is real when anyone with a shread intelligence and integrity can clearly see that global warming in a hoax used to manipulate humanity.


Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |31 May : 09:27
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developers of those CDM projects for carbon credits are no scientist, what makes you think that scientist is the main drive behind the hoax? How do I know? I live in the so called Annex 2 country, I personally know some of those developers and believe you me the environmental is the least of their concern

I'm all for saving the forest and less fossil fuel, but the carbon offset scheme is to blatant to be ignored. Wake the **** up!!

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoMerlin5x5 |09 Jul : 03:04
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Because what every scientist wants is more government funding.

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Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoWe've only got one planet! |31 Jan : 00:48
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Wow, I feel bad for your children and grandchildren! I'm sure you are (or could be if you read some alternative news sources) intelligent people, how can you all really believe that the brown smog over major cities and the dirty, undrinkable water (again near large cities) isn't a caused by man and won't have catastrophic effects on the planet as a whole. We are ruining the ocean and the air! No matter what you want to call it it's bad and we're in trouble. Globally this is acknowledged as an issue, why is it that the US makes the biggest mess (highest CO2 admissions) but doesn't feel the need to clean up after themselves. You make me SAD to be an American! Lets step it up and show the world we are't a joke and acknowledge the problem!!!! Please!!!! We only have one planet!!! Are you really willing to risk being wrong on this?

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agojjay |07 Feb : 00:46
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does it mean anything to you at all, that we are at the same ice levels that we had in 1980? If yes...why? if no...why?

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoGuest2 |25 Feb : 03:17
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Even more important, by November 2008 ice levels did reach the highs in 1979. So in fact even using that year is fine as long as it is pointed out the U of Illinois is comparing the lows of the year on a given day, not the level of ice for the year.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agodoctor484 |25 Feb : 08:51
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So whar does Will get now that we know the satelites were wrong and we have lots more ice?
A+ for getting it right all along, it is a hoax!

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agodrcollicott |25 Feb : 14:21
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notice global warmers cherry pick, show narrow windows of time, average in only periods that show warming and point out specific Hot years to show that they are correct.
yet you start pointing out things that show cooling or widen the time frames you are "cherry picking"
well they can pick someone elses cherry and stay out of my pocket.
if they want they can flip their main power breaker at their house, walk, do want they feel they need to do, but other than building energy producing power plants i do not see any results for their co2 problem other than control everyones energy usages and costs, yet results in not one bit results on controling climate!

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |01 Apr : 07:45
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Try living in Vancouver Canada! The "hot bed" of global warming enthusiast lifestyle! I can't have a discussion with anyone around here without some anti American-Global Warming rhetoric. Notice I put the two together? Not that people here hate Americans, but more the capitalist system. Canada is becoming a Socialist sympathizer. I truly feel that we are in serious trouble. This is far more than a debate. It's just a way to villainize capitalism by linking Global Warming as a direct result. The US has a new president. Will he do a good job? Time will tell, but for all those that did not vote, don't speak to your congressman, or MP, You must now more than ever. Special interest is taking over all our lives. Voter apathy is letting it happen. These guys are organized, militant, and frankly nothing more than thinly vailed anarchists. We all have to speak up as a people, and get rid of this "well what are ya gonna do" attitude. The government works for us! That's why we pay taxes. and like a bad employee, when the boss is away, they'll slack off! Let's get off our asses, and put these snivelling holier than thous back in their place. You know... the 10.00 per cup coffee houses, and non dairy soy sections of the super market. Hmmmmmm. How bout that... both those products are available largely in part through the success of CAP-I-TAL-ISM.

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoDenny |01 Apr : 16:26
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Unforunately, it's spreading to the U.S. more and more!

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agohopscotch |27 Feb : 03:46
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Thirty years of data is absolutely meaningless in the context of 4.6 billion years of geological time. Even a million years of continuous climate data is essentially useless.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agoguest - a REAL skeptic |27 Feb : 07:11
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Thirty years of data is absolutely meaningless in the context of 4.6 billion years of geological time. Even a million years of continuous climate data is essentially useless.

"Nothing is meaningful"

This is the core of denialism - of any stripe. When a skeptic evolves into a cynic.

An assertion without explanation is pretty meaningless, I'd say. I nominate the above quote as a paean for anti-science.

We parenthesise periods to help us understand phenomena. This goes for astronomy, geology, dendrochronoly, physics, archeology, history, tectonics, evolution, soil science, carbon dating... We break things down into periods so we can better understand physical processes on earth and in the universe to help us understand what the future may hold.

We look to the next 30, 50, 100, 200, 1000 years so that we can prepare now for our descendants. As humans have existed on the planet for 200 000 years and out lifespans barely reach 100, I could agree that a 4.6 billion year period (the age of the planet) is a little irrelevant to the topic at hand.

You're saying "the climate has always changed anyway", aren't you? Well, duh.

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |27 Feb : 09:07
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Logic. It's fun, ain't it?

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |28 Feb : 00:00
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A 30 year period is simply far too short to have any significance.

In fact temperature changes of +/-1C/century occur roughly every 200 years and +/-3C/century occur every 1000 years. Temperature changes of +/-10C/century occur roughly every 100,000 years.

So the 1C increase over the last century is actually on the lowest decile of temperature changes. Rather than being a major change it is actually a total statistical non-event. In fact it is no more of a "trend" than tossing a coin and getting three heads in a row.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |27 Feb : 14:31
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During the 30 year period commencing with satellite data until today we have two global climate cycles, one for 19 years of warming characterized by the most active sun in several hundred years; and 11 years of cooling until today, commencing in 1998.

Sea ice levels were at the the presumed maximum in 1979, as the World exited a 35 year period of cooling,

After the is warm cycles' 19 year of warming, presumed ice melting, and 11 years of subsequent cooling, we are essentally exactly where we were 30 years ago.

Anyone with any Scientific sense knows the current cooling sycle is likely to persist for several years if not a few decades. That seems to be the nature of that periodic cycle.

So we probably face an extended cooling for years, yet sea ice is at the highest level that was reached at the end of the previous cooling cycle and the beginning in 1979 of the warming period. How much MORE ICE WILL THERE BE by the time the current cooling cycle turns again?

No matter what the Warmist Cassandras would say, if there is any truth whatever to their science and I accept that CO2 can move the temperature, but only marginally, by a few hundredths of a single degree, there certainly is no fear that it is significant. And at this level is wholly benign. I suggest the doomsday merchants dig out their old Global cooling propaganda and start peddling that. The climate records will probably let you peddle that guff, for a few decades to the gullible, as the ICE continues to pile up.






George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |27 Feb : 18:22
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There's other science on the waning sun for various recent periods. This is the activity since 2000 - slight decline.



(PDF file - one page only)

And yet within that period, the North Pole saw the record for least sea ice extent broken three times (2002, 2005, and 2007), and the global sea ice trend was also down for that period.

Home page for that source on solar decline:


George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoSFM |28 Feb : 08:23
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I love the way alarmists claim cherry picking is the only way to refute global warming. If the earth is being bombarded with more and more CO2 every year there should be no data to cherry pick. The earth should show a higher average temp every year with no exceptions. If a person is suffering from heat stroke and you continue to pile blankets on him his core temp will never go down. So why does the earth show any cooler temps when blankets of CO2 are being heaped upon it in ever increasing amounts?

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoBrandon |29 Mar : 10:20
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Its called negative feedback mechanism. An increase in global temperatures also causes greater evaporation of water from the Earths land-sea surface. one result of having more water vapor in the air is an increase in cloud cover. Because cloud tops are white and highly reflective, more sunlight is reflected back to space, which diminishes the amount of sunshine reaching Earth's surface and thus reduces global temperatures. Further, warmer temperatures tend to promote the growth of vegetation. Plants in turn remove carbon dioxide from the air. Since carbon dioxide is one of the atmosphere's green house gases, its removal has a negative impact on global warming.

To bad we are loseing so much of the rain forests and other flora that help decrease CO2.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoHi |28 Feb : 09:14
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Im wondering what people will say about Al Gore and friends in 20 years when sea level has not risen by 20 feet worldwide as Gore claims it will in "An Inconvienient Truth."


Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |09 Sep : 15:18
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Surely it is understood that this method has no significance whatsoever as a trend analysis? It is not a trend that is being demonstrated, but the coincidence of weather effects.
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George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agoguest again |01 Mar : 23:50
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Frankly if the Washington Post doesn't even mention the satellite problems for January they are idiots.

AFAIK, the WP didn't pick up the satellite story, therefore they must be idiots. This means that idiots ran Wills' column. I could go along with that. ;-)

Again, George Will should have used monthly data from 1980/2009, rather than a particular day in 1979/2009.

Again, it is utterly spurious to use just two data points that are coincidental. This is blatant cherry-picking. To discern a trend, ALL monthly values should be run through a linear regresion. When this is done, the trend is down.

Or if you want a simpler way to do it, break the series up into 6 5-year blocks. work out the average sea ice area for each block, and then comapre values. You will see that the area has sreadily declined.

You're not suggesting al the other months/years should be ignored, are you?

All the while CO2 has been increasing. If CO2 was causing global warming this is not what we would expect to see.

Again, rising concentrations of CO2 (and global warming) do not prevent weather variability from happening. You might be able to find the temperature for a given day/month 30 years ago is higher (or lower) than that for the same day/month in the same location 30 years later. This tells you absolutely nothing about the trend. It is simply a reflection of weather variability.

For example, the global temperature in January 1980 was 0.03 above the anomaly. For January 2008, the temperature anomaly was less; -0.05 below the anomaly.



Does this mean the globe hasn't warmed since 1980?

Obviously, no.

(data is UAH satellite temperature record - the one cited by most critics, for some reason, as being 'truer')

A quick look at the UAH time series from 1980 shows obvious warming, globally - as does all the other surface/satellite temp records.



Wills is talking about a coincdent weather event. He does not talk about trend. If he did, and reported honestly, he would report that global sea ice has been declining for the lasat 30 years.

Another thing Wills omits from his decpetively selective commentary: Global ice volume has also declined - The Arctic sea ice has gotten much thinner. If he expressed sea ice in terms of volume, then at no time in the last decade has the TOTAL polar ice been even nearly equal to any values 30 years ago.

The ice monitoring institute Wills references has contradicted him specifically, the WP ombudsman has found his defence lacking, and he clearly fails to understand the most rudimentary concepts of statistics (or deliberately ignores them).

You can repeat the 'point' Wills makes over and over, but it is, essentially, meaningless. A coincidence of weather, not a reflection of any kind of trend.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |02 Mar : 08:42
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gobal warming is so [censored] gay

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |02 Mar : 14:23
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global warming north east america?? i believe your getting pouned with more snow than youve seen in quite a while eh?? good old democrats like Al Gore. just screwin america

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |02 Mar : 17:20
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Before the industrial revolution got rolling the concetration of CO2 in the atmosphere was approximately 275 parts per million. This number is disputed by some; there are plenty of measurements that show it up to 340 parts per million in the mid 1800's. At present the concentration is around 385 parts per million.

So, the net effect of 150 years of profligate fossil fuel consumption has been to increase the the CO2 in the atmosphere from 3 molecules per 10,000 to 4 molecules per 10,000. Meanwhile, the temperature of the atmosphere has risen by about 0.6 degrees Celsius.

The geological record shows that the climate of the planet has been through multiple cycles of warming and cooling that could not have been caused by anthropogenic CO2. We are forced to the conclusion that there are other, powerful forces in play.

How can the warmists extract the effect of anthropogenic CO2 from the natural climate cycles with such certainty? We are only just begining to understand what they are and how they interact.

We are well within the geological parameters for both CO2 concentration and global temperature. We should be concerned but not alarmed.

If the temperature of the planet had stopped changing about the time we started paying attention to it, that would have been a little spooky. It has always changed and surely always will.

I suggest we all calm down. Thank you George Will for being a calm, rational voice in a febrile debate.

Geologist.


Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoBNRogers |28 Mar : 11:03
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It seems to me that the key question is how much of the warming is attributable to mankind and how much of an effect changes in our carbon output can make in the overall change in global temperatures. I see a paucity of informed opinions about the Milankovich cycles, solar activity, carbon sink capacity of the oceans as a function of temperature and other natural science, and their effects on temperature, climate and atmospheric chemistry. Surely the globe has been warming since the end of the last iceage, and varied dramatically during the previous periods of glaciation, adn these were obviously without the large contribution of man-made carbon being discussed and measured currently.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAntonioSopsa |02 Mar : 20:54
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We must demand that Obama stop using this hoax to destroy our children and grandchildren’s future while imposing communism on us. The more than 650 international scientists that expressed their dissent last year over the man-made global warming claims are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.

Additionally, more than 31,000 American scientists have signed onto a petition that states, "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate…"

Obama, however, is determined to force us to swallow the man-made global warming scam to impose communism on us. Billions have already been wasted because of this hoax and now Obama plans to steal from our children and grandchildren and waste many more billions to carry out moronic plans to “control CO2.”

Based on the global waming hoax, Obama will limit development, increase the cost of energy and thus force factories and companies to close, and multiply poverty and unemployment. Based on this hoax, Obama will prevent the U.S. from becoming energy independent, and leave Americans at the mercy of scum like Hugo Chavez.

If not stopped, the global warming scam will enrich the scammers (Gore and Obama’s fraudulent friends), increase the power of the U.N. and communists like Obama, and multiply poverty and servitude for the rest of us.

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoJohn W |15 Mar : 05:11
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As someone once so wisely advised "follow the money", then you will get the truth about AGW. It is all about global governance and servitude, it has nothing to do with the earth or it's climate.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoJustin C |02 Mar : 21:15
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The hottest year in the last 100 years was in the 1930's, not 1998. Do your research and stop buying into these extremist claims which are about as accurate as Al Gore's debunked "hockey stick" graph.

Regards.


George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoSceptic |03 Mar : 10:44
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In reply to the above, although I am firmly in the sceptic camp, I would like to remind the 'Guest' above that the warmest year was 1998 globally, not in the 1930s. That 1930s thing applies to the US alone.

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |11 Mar : 01:35
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WRONG! It was a worldwide warm cycle in the 1930s. Africa was hit especially hard. If you seriously believe what you wrote (that it was only in the United States) then your either ignorant or you're hoping to cash in on the "carbon credit economy" which will be the market of choice while the Dow languishes in the 2000-6000 point range because of the resulting economic decline.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |04 Mar : 19:25
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1998? Who cares. It used to be much warmer in the medieval times. Funny how the alarmists cling to one year, one record, to further push their hoax. Unreal.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |08 Mar : 08:50
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I ran statistical analyses on these data (from Cryosphere Today) last year - linear regression. I did it again with the new data from 2008 (not yet complete).

I assume the 5 columns are seasonal + annual time series - couldn't find documentation at the site describing

All 5 columns show decline in sea ice area for the period, increasing markedly (for what I assume is the summer minimum column) in the latter years of the series.

People have satellites that can actually measure these things.

The data are from 1870 - 2008. You realize that satellite measurements of polar sea ice began late 1978, right?

For anyone interested and able to run a simple trend analysis in Excel (or similar software), they can verify for themselves that Arctic sea ice has decreased over both the satellite and long-term periods. Here's the link again.



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Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAdmin |22 Apr : 19:39
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You do know that this article is about global sea ice. Most other articles here discuss antarctic sea ice. There is little dispute that at least in the last 30 years arctic sea ice has trended lower. Our position on arctic sea ice (I guess most arctic ice is "sea ice") is that the loss is due to natural cyclic processes. Show us some arctic ice cores that date more than 500 years old. I don't think you'll find any because the ice there has completely melted before.

I doubt if accurate sea ice data is available from the 19th century. Therefore there is no long term trend data.


George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |11 Mar : 09:58
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On February 18, NSIDC issued a news report saying that they have had resolution problems with their satellite imaging, and that "data since 1 January 2009 should not be used." So, until somebody posts an amendment about this on the article, the writer is committing academic dishonesty of the highest order.
http://nsidc.org/data/news.html

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAyBayBayx0879( : |11 Mar : 20:53
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Just lettin ya'll know.


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Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoDenny |11 Mar : 23:32
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And that's what most of Us feel! My kind of person. Short and too the POINT!

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoNSIDC's data issue left out ice... |12 Mar : 21:23
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(under reported ice) so that proves our point even more. Perhaps all the alarmists should be apologizing. We're still waiting for NSIDC to announce that they've fixed the issue and corrected the data. Perhaps accurate data for this period is lost forever, I'm sure James Hansen or someone will just fill those months in with zeros when running the averages.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |13 Mar : 02:12
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We're still waiting for NSIDC to announce that they've fixed the issue and corrected the data. Perhaps accurate data for this period is lost forever, I'm sure James Hansen or someone will just fill those months in with zeros when running the averages.

It pays to stay informed.





(Short version: they used data from a different satellite)

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoMe |13 Mar : 09:33
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On February 18, NSIDC issued a news report saying that they have had resolution problems with their satellite imaging, and that "data since 1 January 2009 should not be used."


How convenient

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agotarunkjuyal |16 Mar : 01:03
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Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoDenny |17 Mar : 23:27
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What article tar@%$^%*, ??? No mind readers at this Site!!

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agodakunism |18 Mar : 13:29
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The only reason the liberals are desperately holding onto the illusional "truth" of global warming, is because of the simple reason that they have been hyping up the dangers of global warming so much, that if they were proven incorrect in their judgement, they would forever be laughed at and lose many many Democratic voters. Help spread the knowledge and prove the liberals wrong! Global warming is fake, false, a hoax, an illusion; however you want to say it, GLOBAL WARMING DOES NOT EXIST!!

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Ago dakunism |18 Mar : 13:34
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I've always thought about saying this, but i always thought about it after typing an article. "If weathermen can't even get the weather conditions of my fishing weekends correct on Thursday, why should i believe them when they are trying to predict what "might" take place in the next 10 years?" Oh, and who remembers the late 70's and early 80's? Does anyone remember the Global Cooling scare that never happened? I thought so...

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Ago dakunism |18 Mar : 13:39
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Houston, Texas had snow this year...and a few years before that, had snow again, the first snow in yeeeaaaaarrrrrrssss. So, what about Global Warming??

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |16 Nov : 11:29
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LOL Do you even know what "global warming" means? By your statement obviously not. It amazes me how many people have no clue what it is (oddly they always tend to take the anti-global warming side)

Misinformation on both side is clouding the issue, and the whole did man contribute has made things even worse.

At least know what something is before you pick a side. Even if it NEVER snowed in x place and now it did has no bearing on global warming.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoFrancis |18 Mar : 19:52
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The Arctic is an ocean surrounded by land. The Antarctic is a continent surrounded by water. And, the Antarctic is made colder by the ozone hole above it. Why would anyone (other than George Will) add the areas together? (The volume issue has been mentioned above.)

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoGregory Fegel |22 Mar : 21:01
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I do wish that those who question or dispute the theory of CO2-cause AGW would not assume that all AGW proponents are 'leftists' or Liberals and that all AGW skeptics are conservatives or libertarians. Try visiting a web site where a lot of hard-core leftists post comments, such as the Prison Planet website, and you will see that a great many leftists are also AGW skeptics. I am personally a leftist, a Liberal, and a socialist, but I am also very much in the AGW skeptic camp. Here is a link to my latest Pravda article:



I see AGW as a scam that right-wing politicians (the USA and UK have almost no truly left-wing political leaders) have created to fool the enviromentally concerned and scientifically challenged citizens into supporting. Just like they used bogus WMDs to fool the citizenry into invading Iraq and the false-flag 9/11 attacks to justify the bogus War on Terror. All of these are right-wing fascist scams designed to increase the profits, the power, and the social control of the state and the corporations.

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Thank you - someone who gets it. Global warming is probably real, but there is only data that hints at the cause. The hype around it is by a large number of people who figure to gain from one side or another, and the "scientifically challenged" (I like that term) masses eat what they are being told from their hero's. I live in America, and we used to believe we could do anything - if we need to solve global warming, let's do it - but let's not give all our money and energy to those who are just seeking to take it for their own gain (sound like what is going on with the banks - just give each citizen 15K to spend - cheaper and probably better alternative than giving our money to the same folks who drove the bus to where we are right now, and tell us that they are the only ones to get us out).

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agothomaspeep |25 Mar : 21:51
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Al Gore just admitted that he's been wrong all this time on climate change.
Read his confession here:

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoDenny |26 Mar : 15:14
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Wrong!!! When ever you receive news like this, you need to CHECK IT OUT! It was only a Satire!



Research, Research, Research!!!!

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |26 Mar : 14:40
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I see AGW as a scam that right-wing politicians (the USA and UK have almost no truly left-wing political leaders) have created to fool the enviromentally concerned and scientifically challenged citizens into supporting.

So Al Gore and Barack Obama are part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Who wudda thunk it?

AGW is a purely leftist creation. Blaming the Right for your side's screwups does not conceal that fact.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoRascal69 |28 Mar : 08:51
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So, if I understand the Global Warming theory correctly, it states that the overall temperature of planet Earth will increase as CO2 levels increase from all of our Man-Made systems and devices.

Okay, so can one of you GW Genius' explain why the overall temperature of planet Earth lowered in 2008 (albeit a very small amount) when the levels of CO2 surely increased? Which climate model predicted that outcome?

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoHenry |28 Mar : 18:27
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I went to the NSIDC, to look for the sea ice extent shown above. What I saw instead read like this: "Monthly average ice extent for February 2009 was the fourth lowest in the satellite record. February 2005 had the lowest ice extent for the month; February 2006 was the second lowest; and February 2007 is in third place. Including 2009, the downward linear trend in February ice extent over the satellite record stands at –2.8% per decade." So, what else you got for us? Let me guess, industries don't pollute, cigarettes are actually good for you, Jesus actually threw the poor people out of the temple, and the world is 6000 years old. How did they use to put it to me...in the end, you will all be believers.

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You must not have looked real hard: You can run the numbers yourself and then come back and apologize

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoGrayraven@rocketmail.com |29 Mar : 14:30
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My favorite site was 'the cryosphere today {http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/}" where users were allowed to compare ice coverage from 1980 through 2009 on a daily basis. They even had snow coverage for the five most recent years. The University of Illinois puts up the data. Unfortunately they have recently disabled the 2009 data. They explain that they had data gathering problems so they have disabled the comparison feature for 2009 data. The other years (1979-2008) work fine and perusing these data can be a real eye-popper if you are into going to original sources of data. If you can read a graph it is still possible to estimate the ice coverage on your own. It is more work but the diligent reader can still get an excellent idea as to what is going on in the real world without looking through the distorting lens of the popular media.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |29 Mar : 14:32
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My favorite site was 'the cryosphere today {http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/}" where users were allowed to compare ice coverage from 1980 through 2009 on a daily basis. They even had snow coverage for the five most recent years. The University of Illinois puts up the data. Unfortunately they have recently disabled the 2009 data. They explain that they had data gathering problems so they have disabled the comparison feature for 2009 data. The other years (1979-2008) work fine and perusing these data can be a real eye-popper if you are into going to original sources of data. If you can read a graph it is still possible to estimate the ice coverage on your own. It is more work but the diligent reader can still get an excellent idea as to what is going on in the real world without looking through the distorting lens of the popular media.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |31 Mar : 14:20
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This argument is like talking about how many ice cubes were in the refridgerator over the last 50 years...

If the Volume of the Oceans and Lakes are fixed and the variable is only temperature, then the relationship should be comparatively easy to interpret.

If you look at the Ocean Level over the last million or so years i.e;

Then you can see that there is an approximate maximum ocean level that we are presently enjoying.

With the trends that are so obvious and repeatable who is willing to say that this recent event that started 18 thousand years ago is special?

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoDenny |01 Apr : 16:32
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Very good point! If you look at Earth's time span nothing has really changed. As long as the Earth's Axis stays where it's at, the Ice will come and go in the Artic and the Antarctic will continue to make Ice and shed it's ice into the Southern Ocean. It's when the Magnetic Axis changes is when Earth will have to adapt again. Something Earth has ALWAYS done, adapt to change.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |02 Apr : 12:52
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The whole steady decline thing is goofy a perfect example of numbers being manipulated to make your point. Let me make it simple for you. If I have a basket full of apples and that basket has a hole in it. One apple drops out of the basket each day (steady decline) here is no way that over 30 yrs time I will still have the same number of apples. The ice is NOT disappearing. It is not steady it is cyclic.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoBigJim |12 Apr : 09:12
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My understanding of the debate is as follows:

1. The volume of sea ice is essentially the same as it was in 1979

2. The change in volume of sea ice is proportional to the change in average temperature of the earth by some realtionship(i.e. linearly, exponetially etc).

Now if you consider the science involved in the change of state from water to ice. It takes a certain amount of energy to reduce the temperature of water down to 32 F or 0 C. From that point it takes a substantial more amount of energy to change the liquid water at 32 F or 0 C to solid water(ice) at 32 F or 0 C.

The long and short of the discussion on the change in state of water to ice is that it would tend to take substantial amounts of time to show substantial changes in the volume of ice given the slight variations in temperatures we are speaking about.

Therefore, I believe, you could "cherry pick" a certain month in 2008 and compare it to 1979 since any volume of ice is the product of the conditions leading up to that point and not simply conditions for that day, week or month.

My conclusion is if there is the same volume of global ice now as there was in 1979, then Global Warming is a hoax.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoWanting sanity |16 Apr : 14:13
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I think everyone who believes in global warming should go to the following link and give the article some thought.


Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agoguest (again) |30 Apr : 21:12
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This is more like it - I'm your local AMS person. Anyone who uses information with motive - like most of those on here, not trying to find out the truth, only ranting and not understanding what is going on - should not be commenting on science. I am hesitant to call global warming manmade, and I am not sure it is in our control, but the data is solid for what is going on - it is not a single day or year, it is a trend. This trend may well reverse, or it may continue, but look at the data.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agobuz925 |18 Apr : 11:43
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These concerned wizzards say that melting of global ice will cause costal areas to flood failes to notice that said ice is FLOATING on the oceans. Therefore, it could ALL melt without raising the tide ONE INCH.

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |16 Nov : 11:39
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Ice attached to a land mass doesn't displace water until it breaks free. If part of the ice that already broke free melts then no it won't raise sea level. The raising of sea level is done at the point of ice breaking free of its support.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoGuesst |23 Apr : 07:32
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Global warming will kill us all!!!

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoHighspeedlimo |06 May : 06:11
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HOW RETARDED ARE YOU PEOPLE? Global warming is real and thats a fact. It called a hoax by Republicans WHO ARE SPONSORED BY OIL COMPANIES WHO DONT WANT TO LOSE MONEY TO THE ECO FRIENDLY ONES! which is exactly why ignorant people go out of there way to make a site so they can enjoy the bliss of their ignorance. oh and by the way. 4chan wants to talk to you ^^

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoBTZsurferboy |06 May : 06:27
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THANK YOU! SOMEONE HAS SOME SMARTS! global warming IS real and there is poof, you ignorant republican retards! Honestly i thought special people like you weren't allowed on the computer, for obvious reasons...

Re: George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agomabes3123 |03 Jul : 17:20
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You call us republican idots a. you or not one of your statest scientists can even remotely begin to understand the history of this planet. Oh they can explain how things toook place but NO ONE, I MEAN NO ONE CAN PERDICT THE FUTURE YOU MENTAL MIDGET. Global warming is BS just like 1979 and time magizen with there the new ice age that was coming. By the way where the hell did the ice age go, the same statest scienentest that were wrong than are wrong now and hey einstien follow the money that's what this is all about.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Ago4chanuser1 |06 May : 06:30
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Hey retards, hows the weather?

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Ago4CHANUSER2 |06 May : 06:44
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Well i know how global warming affects people. I, myself, have experienced some very extreme and quick changes in the weather. How the hell could that have happaned if it wasn't because of Global Warming? hmm?? You people that say its a "hoax" are absolutely ridiculous! I guess it's becuase you are in complete denial off whats happening around you. It is man-made of course, but its not all man's fault. the atmosphere is held tight by different, very important, gasses which are all stable. It is man's fault that we have created more and more gasses that have unstablized the gasses. The rest has been nature's reaction to our unresponsible actions.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |19 May : 08:41
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No sunspots, no warming.


George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades Agome |21 Jun : 05:45
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the government doesnt give all the facts out the control the media so the let out what they want and also keep in what they want yeah!!

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |08 Aug : 00:46
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Well, Im not republican or Democrat, I think both sides are a bunch of morons, but I think global warming is real, CO2 concentrations are the highest they have ever been, and yes oil companies have paid billions to keep it quiet, and call it a 'hoax'. I think it will take a long time to have any impact on the world as a whole, but hey Ill prolly be dead by then so I dont really give a ****

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoMarcus |31 Aug : 21:08
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It's impossible to argue based on 2 points in historical data when the data fluctuates constantly. Global warming is indeed very real. Even my grandma notice the change in temperature.
Marcus - Maui Beach Vacation Club Owner

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoWalt_Disney |12 Oct : 13:02
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GLOBAL WARMING IS CONTROLED BY NATURAL OCCURANCES. Don't be arrogant, Al Gore actually thinks that humans have the power to control the temperature? Maybe I could believe him if he wasn't set to make millions off of the idea of man made global warming.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoAnonymous |18 Oct : 11:58
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Anyone know why the pole with the largest amount of sea ice reversed? and if land ice is included is the result the same?

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoPhD_Geophysics,_1987_UofT |22 Nov : 15:53
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you can not win an argument with the global warming cult members.

it is like trying to prove evolution to the devout fundamentalist

The worst thing is that at the core of the warming conspiracy is a group of climate scientists who have falsified and manipulated their data, and a group of politicians and other lobbyists with no science background who quote this junk science for their own nefarious purposes.

Then you have the masses of followers in this cult who just parrot these lies.

George Will Is Correct On Global Sea Ice, It Is Higher Today Than Almost 3 Decades AgoRalph |03 Jan : 12:14
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